I see that Ilford is producing a 4x5 kit that includes a body, box of film and two types of paper. It's exciting to see something new coming out but the price tag is something like $245. That's a bit steep but you can instantly get into LF below with that price.
So how many of you interested and how many of you do pinhole photography?

Good morning, Robert;

First, what are you doing up at 0400?

Next, I do have a body cap with a pinhole for use on a 6x6 camera, but I have not really done anything with it. The thought of doing something like that with the 4 by 5 had not occurred to me, but then, I do have a couple of lenses for them here. It is not something that that has been of significant interest to me. I have not yet felt that I have mastered what can be done with the movements of a view camera.

Enjoy; Ralph, Latte Land, Washington

$245 seems like a lot for what amounts to simply a box with a pinhole in it. I was given an 8"x10" pinhole camera for Christmas one year, and it is a joy to work with. It is made by the Lensless Camera Company and can be purchased at Freestyle Sales in Los Angeles for less than $200, not including shipping. They also make 4"x5" as well as a 5"x7" cameras. Actually, Freestyle has an excellent choice of various pinhole cameras for sale including the Leonardos (I happen to own a 4"x5" Leonardo as well). If you need to take a creative free ride, pinhole is one way to go. The unlimited depth of field makes for interesting possibilities for near-far perspectives, and I like to simply use an eight pound sand bag instead of a tripod and get worm's eye views of the world.

Morning to you too, Ralph and Micheal.
I was up at 4 with a sore back. Hefting. 250 pound 30 foot extent ion ladder is no simple matter.
I was looking at the direct positive paper Ilford is offering with the pinhole kit. Looks interesting. There is a guy in Greece who is making and selling 8x10 cameras. I like the looks of them. He even has a red one. If I bought one of those I can still be a member of the red bellows gang on Facebook.
My instructor Marion Patterson called your worms view, "Wet belly photography". She taught whole courses on the subject. It was fun because afterwards we share lunch and she talk about all the photographers she knew.

Good morning, Robert;

Wow! I am impressed. Even my fibre glass nominal 30 foot two section extension ladder (actual working length 27 feet) weighs only 80 pounds. The full aluminum extension ladder is even lighter than that.

I must admit that you have me thinking of trying pin hole photography. It can even be done with a piece of paper in the film holder. Something to consider.

Enjoy; Ralph, Latte Land, Washington

I just won a Blindwino 6X6 on Eprey. Should be fun

Ron