Overall, I agree - although the jury is out on this one, of course. So far, the memory of "the internet" has proven to be pretty ruthless much of the time.
An anecdote comes to mind - my wife is young enough to have grown up with mobile phones (well, so am I, at least to an extent...and insofar as I ever grew up of course), so she was texting her friends as a teenager. Fearing that she might at some point lose those glorious conversations, she has (I kid you not) transcribed those conversations in a diary on several occasions (again, I'm not making this up).
Maybe we could propose that people would draw a facsimile of the photos sent to them through WhatsApp etc.
Exactly. People often point out the fleeting nature of digital media, whilst ignoring or forgetting the fact that can be (and often are) also readily duplicated at effectively zero marginal cost.
I find something ghoulish, akin to necrophilia, in digging up others' personal life mementos for one's art.Some people just get rid of the old family albums. An acquaintance of mine searches these out and makes art out of those images.
I find something ghoulish, akin to necrophilia, in digging up others' personal life mementos for one's art.
Some people just get rid of the old family albums. An acquaintance of mine searches these out and makes art out of those images.
Does that violate copyrights?
Texting and social media are in the vapor and get lost. I'm referring to hard copies like framed photo prints, photo books, memory cards for playback, etc.
Overall, I agree - although the jury is out on this one, of course. So far, the memory of "the internet" has proven to be pretty ruthless much of the time.
An anecdote comes to mind - my wife is young enough to have grown up with mobile phones (well, so am I, at least to an extent...and insofar as I ever grew up of course), so she was texting her friends as a teenager. Fearing that she might at some point lose those glorious conversations, she has (I kid you not) transcribed those conversations in a diary on several occasions (again, I'm not making this up).
Maybe we could propose that people would draw a facsimile of the photos sent to them through WhatsApp etc.
Exactly. People often point out the fleeting nature of digital media, whilst ignoring or forgetting the fact that can be (and often are) also readily duplicated at effectively zero marginal cost.
Probably not because it incorporates the photos in a new piece of art, effectively changing them.
One thing that seems to be overlooked is that with today’s smartphones and their digital camera predecessors, many more family, event and vacation photos are being taken. Leading to a much richer archive of the people and times than in the purely film days.
But are they being saved someplace retrievable or permeant or just left in the cellphones?
Someone let Richard Prince know that. He doesn’t even modify others’ photos, just the context.
Most smartphones back up to the cloud or another computer.
Provided the internet works, there is a connection, the smartphone's battery is charged, no power failure and you did not forgot to pay the provider's bill...
One thing that seems to be overlooked is that with today’s smartphones and their digital camera predecessors, many more family, event and vacation photos are being taken. Leading to a much richer archive of the people and times than in the purely film days.
Provided the internet works, there is a connection, the smartphone's battery is charged, no power failure and you did not forgot to pay the provider's bill...
However, I think the tendency, for more and more people, is to delete unwanted photos fairly quickly
…There appears to be a tendency to spread FUD when it comes to approaches people personally don't prefer….
Vince, you clearly have no idea what you’re doing in your darkroom. You’re wearing Hokas for that? I love the cushioning in a Hoka as much as the next guy, but serious darkroom practitioners know that the Alphafly 3 is what you should be wearing for that kind of stuff. Sheesh!^^^THIS^^^
Tell me about it! I live in Montana and recently bought a Tesla Model Y. As if being from California and a long time vegetarian hadn’t already made me a target. ;-)
But back to a photography-related example, on another social media platform there is a darkroom forum that I find quite worthwhile, seeing work others do as well as how and where they do it. Posting photos of darkroom space (like we do here) I find helpful to see how others have solved the same issues we all deal with in terms of space, equipment, workflow, especially when alternative processes are involved. I posted a couple updated photos of mine now that I have a second enlarger in there and got some positive feedback but, as is always the case, one guy (I assume it was a guy) let me know things he didn’t approve of. For example, I have a bare concrete floor and he said I should have anti-fatigue mats. Well, I find that those things can be tripping hazards in a dark space and prefer to wear an older pair of my Hoka running shoes which provide LOTS of cushioning. Someone asked why I have a microwave and I mentioned that it was an extra unit we had and it is handy to heat up my developer in the winter as my darkroom is unheated and stays about 58°F when it’s -20F in the dead of winter. Yes, I use a space heater to take the chill off but I’m not going to wait for that to heat up the liquids. I also mentioned that I saw a documentary on Ansel Adams years ago and he showed how he dries his test strips in a microwave. This guy went off on how a hair dryer is a much better method. This type of feedback is just the way of the world today.
Someone let Richard Prince know that. He doesn’t even modify others’ photos, just the context.
Most smartphones back up to the cloud or another computer.
Vince, you clearly have no idea what you’re doing in your darkroom. You’re wearing Hokas for that? I love the cushioning in a Hoka as much as the next guy, but serious darkroom practitioners know that the Alphafly 3 is what you should be wearing for that kind of stuff. Sheesh!
Back to the topic of thread title. I believe it was Picasso who said that if there were no wars, fires, or other disasters that destroyed art of the past, that the clutter of past art would leave no room for contemporary art. So if, upon your demise, all your photos are trashed, think of it as a positive contribution to the creation of future photographs.
I doubt if most people bother with that. In any case, there are limits to cloud memory and computer backup is not necessarily automatic and there are limits there as well. One day you wake up and you wonder what happened to all those pictures you shot of your children when they were children.
…We;re afraid to let go of them as if they're our right arms even though they have no real importance except in our ego-filled minds.…
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