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Ian Grant

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It's a model made up until the early part of WWII (US entry) after that the models changed, they were made in a different factory with new hardware. Bingham's camer production facilities was making turned over entirely to war production of optical instruments.

It's a Universal View made from around 1935 to 1941/2, and it's the more desirable version with front tilt which is very useful with a 10x8 camera. Without a case or lens it cost $73 in 1941The Deluxe Universal View was Grey finish with nickel hardware nowhere near as nice looking :D

It's not the top model that was the Commercial View which takes an extension rail and extends to 36½" compared to the shorter bellows of the Universal View which extend to 26½". I have both models although my Universal View has no front tilt.

These Agfa Ansco's were regarded as the best 10x8 LF cameras available before WWII, the company Scoville, later Antony & Scoville goes back to the early days of US camera manufacture. Owners included Ansel Adams, Brett Weston etc and I know Steve Anchell swears by his :smile:

My own Commercial View came from Portland, Maine and the original owner was a student & later lecturer at the Clarence White School of Photography, he'd bought the best available US made camera & lens of the time, so the Agfa Ansco and a 12" Goerz Am Opt. Dagor, which was later factory coated after WWII.

So you've got yourself a great camera, lots of Pedigree and very usable, the lens is post WWII but a very suitable match for the camera and should be sharp and contrasty.

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Thanks for the info, and thanks for the catalog. Wasn't sure of the exact model, but you've confirmed my thoughts about the vintage.
 

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Ian, was there a Universal with front tilt?
I just bought one with front tilt and a front extension but the bellows only reach 27".
I'm wondering if it's a Commercial with bellows from a Universal?
It also came with a 5"x7" back and a brass lens with no name, that'll be the next piece for me to ID!
 

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Ian...do you still have your commercial model? I picked up one but the front standard looks like it was from a different camera or at least the wood finish is different.

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Ian...do you still have your commercial model? I picked up one but the front standard looks like it was from a different camera or at least the wood finish is different.

drew

Hi Drew

Yes I still have my Commercial View, it's sat on a tripod about 10ft from me. Lt me see some photos. I have two other 10x8 Agfa Ansco cameras both Universal Views, but none are quite identical.

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Ok, herre are some photos of the main components. You can see the difference in wood finishes but the front standard works perfectly...it does move back and forth the way the com
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mercial unit works.
 

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Sorry about the extra large images...I'm not big on working with digital imaging manipulation...
 

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Looks like someone stripped off the grey paint and re-finished it. It's not an Agfa Ansco front standard, it's the later Ansco type made after the US government took over the company, they were only sold in grey paint finish, and had Bakelite thumb wheels etc. Changes were made to the cameras when camera production stopped in the Agfa Ansco, Bingham, factory which was turned over to making military optical equipment, until after WWII.

There's a couple of slight variations of the front standard of these late Ansco cameras. yours is the earlier version. The Canadian photographer used one, and it was refinished in white paint. Richard Taylor a member here has restored on and refinished it white with blue bellows, see here. Then here's his other one, note the uprights of the front standard have lost their more elegant shape.

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Ian, was there a Universal with front tilt?
I just bought one with front tilt and a front extension but the bellows only reach 27".
I'm wondering if it's a Commercial with bellows from a Universal?
It also came with a 5"x7" back and a brass lens with no name, that'll be the next piece for me to ID!

I should have answered this 9 years ago (well nearly). Yes there were Universal Views with front tilt, I bought one a few months ago, the Ansco Universal View when first introduced around 1926 had a fixed front standard, no front focussing, just a little rise & fall, and shift. By 1930 the Agfa Ansco Commercial View had front focussing, the Universal hadn't yet changed.

Ian
 
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