B&W 120 film WITHOUT self-adhesive tape: Still manufactured?

Dali · Sep 30, 2019

Hi there,

I never had such trouble with my C330 but my Lubitel seems to be allergic to film with some end roll tapes... The self adhesive strips peel off against the pressure plate and I end up with a stuck film before I could fully wind it up. In the future, I will try to avoid such roll films and get some with lick tape instead.

Are these still manufactured or is it a lost cause?

MattKing · Sep 30, 2019

Kodak films use "lick" tapes.

Sirius Glass · Sep 30, 2019

MattKing said:
Kodak films use "lick" tapes.

I believe that the OP means that the Lubitel pulls the film off the paper, thus ruining the film.

AgX · Sep 30, 2019

I think he means the pressure-sensitive adhesive sticker from the final tail sticking in the camera at last winding.

AgX · Sep 30, 2019

Ever thought of waxing and polishing the pressure plate?

Sirius Glass · Sep 30, 2019

Sirius Glass said:
I believe that the OP means that the Lubitel pulls the film off the paper, thus ruining the film.

I am so embarrassed.

Dali · Sep 30, 2019

AgX said:
I think he means the adhesive sticker from the final tail sticking in the camera at last winding.

Correct.

mshchem · Sep 30, 2019

Don't use Imperialist film in Soviet cameras . Seriously I've never seen roll film without the end tape.

Pieter12 · Sep 30, 2019

I figure you are describing the tape at the end of the backing paper that would seal the roll after it is exposed. I can't imagine you are talking about the tape that holds the film to the backing paper? If it is the first case, all the Ilford films I have used have "lick" adhesive tapes. But they also are prone to detaching from the backing paper when the film is wound up and you need to make sure that it doesn't end up somewhere loose inside the camera. And always carry some spare tape or rubber bands if it should happen.

Dali · Sep 30, 2019

mshchem said:
Don't use Imperialist film in Soviet cameras . Seriously I've never seen roll film without the end tape.

I know but when the trouble is when it starts to peel off and the adhesive part sticks to the pressure plate...

Dali · Sep 30, 2019

Pieter12 said:
I figure you are describing the tape at the end of the backing paper that would seal the roll after it is exposed. I can't imagine you are talking about the tape that holds the film to the backing paper? If it is the first case, all the Ilford films I have used have "lick" adhesive tapes. But they also are prone to detaching from the backing paper when the film is wound up and you need to make sure that it doesn't end up somewhere loose inside the camera. And always carry some spare tape or rubber bands if it should happen.

This is what I need to know. If it is the "lick" type, it should be fine as long as I can fully wind the film + backing paper around the taking reel without the whole thing being stuck somewhere after the 12th shot...

AgX · Sep 30, 2019

Dali said:
I know but when the trouble is when it starts to peel off and the adhesive part sticks to the pressure plate...

That is why I proposed dealing with the pressure plate.

mshchem · Sep 30, 2019

Dali said:
This is what I need to know. If it is the "lick" type, it should be fine as long as I can fully wind the film + backing paper around the taking reel without the whole thing being stuck somewhere after the 12th shot...

Fuji has the different adhesive tape. Kodak and Ilford requires, licking like a stamp to be stuck in place

Agulliver · Oct 1, 2019

This is curious....I've put Kodak, Lomography (likely = Kodak), Foma and Ilford film through my Lubitel 166U with no problems. Is there a specific issue causing your problem, like the pressure plate being out of alignment?

Klaus_H · Oct 4, 2019

I did have the same trouble in a Rolleiflex 3,5 F with films made by FOMA.
The only film manufacturer who is able to work with selfadhesive tapes is Fuji.

Dali · Oct 4, 2019

Klaus_H said:
I did have the same trouble in a Rolleiflex 3,5 F with films made by FOMA.
The only film manufacturer who is able to work with selfadhesive tapes is Fuji.

Yes, the trouble I experienced was with FOMA film.

R.Gould · Oct 4, 2019

I have used Fomapan in both of my Rolleiflex's (automat and T) and both of my rolleicords plus my 2 Microcords without problems with the self adhesive tabs,

Neal · Oct 8, 2019

I don't know anything about that camera but is it possible the pressure plate is set for 220 film?

AgX · Oct 8, 2019

It is a soviet camera. Lubitel means "Amateur", thus a most basic camera. In the USSR there were no type 220 films.

Dali · Oct 8, 2019

Neal said:
I don't know anything about that camera but is it possible the pressure plate is set for 220 film?

Red window and 220 films don’t go along well...

etn · Oct 14, 2019

MattKing said:
Kodak films use "lick" tapes.

My girlfriend finds the licking process and the resulting blueish tongue absolutely disgusting (This is one reason why she prefers 35mm - the other reason being that she loves my M6 ha ha)

Sirius Glass · Oct 14, 2019

etn said:
My girlfriend finds the licking process and the resulting blueish tongue absolutely disgusting (This is one reason why she prefers 35mm - the other reason being that she loves my M6 ha ha)

If that is her only problem with 120 film, just tell her that you will kiss the blue stain off her tongue, although I have never seen such a stain. Stick to Kodak and Ilford products, unless you like kissing her.

B&W 120 film WITHOUT self-adhesive tape: Still manufactured?

Moderator

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency