Dissection Minolta NP-90M battery pack for Minolta (Maxxum) 9000; MD-90, BP-90M

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The Minolta (Maxxum) 9000 comes with the Motor Drive MD-90 as an accessory, which can optionally be operated with the rechargeable NP-90M battery pack.


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This is a high-quality part that is electronically connected to the motor drive and provides a portrait format shutter release.

The NP-90M contains nickel-cadmium batteries that have leaked over the decades.

I wanted to take a look at the inner workings of the battery pack with a view to replacing the batteries.



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Loosening the screw connections.


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The battery cells have leaked.


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There are no nominal values applied to the battery cells below the plastic cover which I have sliced.


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13 battery cells of 1.2 volts each are connected in series and soldered together.


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Overview


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The battery cells are only electrically connected to the NP-90M circuit via the red plus and black minus connections.


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Switch, a small circuit board with a red LED, resistors and probably a transistor.


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The corresponding charger NC-90M.



The question that arises with all old battery packs is which batteries can be used as replacements.

As far as I know, nickel-cadmium batteries are only available in the EU for certain applications and while stocks last.
 
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Optionally, the MD-90 can be operated with the BP-90M battery holder for 12 x AA.

This means that the motor can still be used today.


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The MD-90 is one of the most valuable accessories I have seen for SLRs.


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The motor drive is fairly fast, I think 5.5 FPS, but at 12 AA, it can heavy. I normally use the motor winder, it is a lot lighter at 4AA, but 2 FPS. There are few companies here in the U.S that will rebuilt NC batteries, but the cost is high.
 

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I've just ordered some replacement N sized NiMH cells from Aliexpress for one of these. Kinda pricey and low availability, plus the usual risks of shopping on Aliexpress, but the only other places selling them are alarm battery places at like £5 a cell. As far as i'm aware NiMH cells are almost a 1:1 replacement for NiCd cells with the difference being how charging circuits detect the end of charge, but it doesn't appear any of the charging circuit was contained in the battery pack itself so that's easy to work with.

At least, i'm assuming that. I've not been able to get that metal plate off to take a closer look since a few of the screws are extremely stuck and now rounded off. Fortunately they go into round pillars so I can remake them, but i'll have to drill the old screws out at this point maybe. I wonder if the problem is leaked electrolyte getting into the threads.
 
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I've just ordered some replacement N sized NiMH cells from Aliexpress for one of these. Kinda pricey and low availability, plus the usual risks of shopping on Aliexpress, but the only other places selling them are alarm battery places at like £5 a cell. As far as i'm aware NiMH cells are almost a 1:1 replacement for NiCd cells with the difference being how charging circuits detect the end of charge, but it doesn't appear any of the charging circuit was contained in the battery pack itself so that's easy to work with.

At least, i'm assuming that. I've not been able to get that metal plate off to take a closer look since a few of the screws are extremely stuck and now rounded off. Fortunately they go into round pillars so I can remake them, but i'll have to drill the old screws out at this point maybe. I wonder if the problem is leaked electrolyte getting into the threads.

I have an NP-90M battery pack here, unopened and in very good condition. I can send it to you.

I am also happy to include the parts of the battery pack that I disassembled, including all the screws.

Of course free of charge 😌
 
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Very kind offer, thanks. I'll see if I can get this one apart first but I might take you up on it if I manage to completely mangle it.
 

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Well the aliexpress order says the delivery date will be the 25th of March, and I can't try cancel it since it's already supposedly been shipped lol. So I took another look at the Landscape of Batteries and found they make 2/3 AAA sized cells that're a bit skinnier but the same length as N sized ones, and they're popular in those garden solar lanterns thus fairly cheap and available. I've ordered a set that should arrive alot sooner.

It's a shame no literature seems to state the expected mAh capacity of the NP-90M itself, but looking at search engine results for an old catalogue...
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"N" at 150mAh when the 2/3AAA NiMH cells I just ordered claim to be 400mAh. Which I doubt is true but even if it's exaggerated by as much as half, it'd still be more capacity than a nominal NiCd cell of the era.
 

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Alright, I got it working!

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First step was cleaning the old stuff out. I removed everything including those contact posts that connect it to the camera, which were just press fit into plastic holes and could be twisted a bit to loosen them and then pulled out.

Cracked the case unfortunately trying to get the metal insert out. I thought it was held on with double sided tape but it was just the foam tape under the cells overlapping, but I flexed it a little to try peel it off the imaginary adhesive.

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Half assed attempt to hide the glue repair. I might come back at this.

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Spot welding the cells. I bought the battery spot welder a while back and the thing makes me nervous. Just a big old lithium battery you directly short out. They're vape batteries and designed for it I suppose, but I still don't like it.

Once everything was soldered back in place and tested working, I applied a few dollops of hot glue to hopefully prevent it sliding around. The new cells are a bit narrower and looser, and while the foam holds them in place, some sharp bumps or dropping it could have the packs slide and possibly short something. Also the removed and reinserted contact posts were glued in to hopefully prevent them rotating since their tabs could touch and short.

If you can get the top metal cover off there's little reason to dissemble it as much as I did.

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The charging setup is quite crude, using an old RC hobby charger and the connector from a particularly busted motor drive. I'd hoped i'd be able to charge it all neat and properly through the DC jack but the hobby charger didn't like that, complained about over-voltage. Probably because there's a diode in the way or something... I think I forgot to take a photo of the top side of the pack's PCB, or i'd try trace it out. But yeah the two power pins are just directly connected to both end of the battery. I'll probably try make something a bit neater at another time.


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But yeah, glad that's working now. The rechargable battery looks alot less silly than the huge tall AA one, although I think the AA one looks good with the control grip. Since they're quick detachable from the motor drive it might make sense to just keep the control grip always attached to the AA pack. You could use battery packs as a weird tripod quick release.

Something i've read occasionally is that the motor drive can only hit its top speed with the NP-90M, which didn't make alot of sense to me. The manual has the line "for maximum film advance speed of 5fps, fully charged NP-90M must be used" which could be read as saying the BP-90M can't hit 5fps, but it could also just mean you've gotta use a freshly charged NP-90M to hit the advertised top speed. But maybe mid 80s alkalines couldn't provide as much current as contemporary NiCd?

Either way it's hard to compare them now since 12 fresh alkalines is about the same voltage as 13 charged NiMH cells, then there's different voltage fall-offs and stuff. But i'd say there's no significant difference in performance speed-wise between the two battery packs. I also suspect the motor drive is regulating the framerate electronically anyways.
 

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The current you can pull from a cell is a function of its internal resistance. Ni-cd and Ni-MH have way lower internal resistance than alkalines (tens of milliohms compared with hundreds of milliohms), ergo you can get way more current from them, with less voltage drop, all things being equal.
 
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