Kodak price increase, and reduction, for 2025

[Alex Benjamin]

From Kosmo foto

Kodak Alaris announces price rises for January 2025 – but Tri-X is getting cheaper

Kodak Gold 120 is seeeing a price increase of some 305 after being heavily reduced (Pic: Kodak ALARIS) Kodak Alaris has announced a price increase to its range of films and single-use cameras which…

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[logan2z]

Thanks for the info. I made the switch to Ilford HP5+ a couple of years ago when the price of Tri-X was out of control and I don't have any compelling reason to switch back now. But it's good to know that Kodak has realized the error of their ways and has brought the price of Tri-X back inline with that of other B&W film stocks.

 

[MattKing]

I note that this references distributor's prices, in the EU.
So there may be little or no connection with the prices charged by KA in other parts of the world.

 

[Alex Benjamin]

Thanks for the info. I made the switch to Ilford HP5+ a couple of years ago when the price of Tri-X was out of control and I don't have any compelling reason to switch back now. But it's good to know that Kodak has realized the error of their ways and has brought the price of Tri-X back inline with that of other B&W film stocks.

I also switched to HP5+ a while back.

I don't think Kodak has much of a choice with 35mm Tri-X. There's so many B&W films available now that they risk overpricing themselves out of the market. 120 film is another matter, and, according to the article, they're not lowering the Tri-X price in that format.

 

[GregY]

I also switched to HP5+ a while back.

I don't think Kodak has much of a choice with 35mm Tri-X. There's so many B&W films available now that they risk overpricing themselves out of the market. 120 film is another matter, and, according to the article, they're not lowering the Tri-X price in that format.

I guess it depends on the type of work you do and the volume of film you use. Kodak & Ilford are in the upper echelon of films in terms of QC, reliability and results.
At B&H there's a $0.04 difference between Ilford & Kodak in 35mm. And $1.40 difference on a propack or 5 rolls of 120. It's not enough for me to cut either of those brands out of the equation.....

 

[halfaman]

I guess it depends on the type of work you do and the volume of film you use. Kodak & Ilford are in the upper echelon of films in terms of QC, reliability and results.
At B&H there's a $0.04 difference between Ilford & Kodak in 35mm. And $1.40 difference on a propack or 5 rolls of 120. It's not enough for me to cut either of those brands out of the equation.....

In Europe Tri-X is €2 more expensive than HP5+ per roll, and that difference was more than € 3 per roll a couple of years ago but Ilford has raised the price and narrow it. I don't consider Tri-X or TMax films for BW since long time ago due to their price, and it is something common for others in the old continent.

 

[Anon Ymous]

In Europe Tri-X is €2 more expensive than HP5+ per roll, and that difference was more than € 3 per roll a couple of years ago but Ilford has raised the price and narrow it. I don't consider Tri-X or TMax films for BW since long time ago due to their price, and it is something common for others in the old continent.

Exactly. I haven't shot any Kodak BW for years and certainly won't for the foreseeable future. I do have a stash of Kodak colour films in tne freezer, but I don't see me buying any if I run low.

 

[miha]

I see no mention of sheet film. It would be helpful to get clarity on whether sheet film is affected by this as well.

 

[Arcadia4]

In Europe Tri-X is €2 more expensive than HP5+ per roll, and that difference was more than € 3 per roll a couple of years ago but Ilford has raised the price and narrow it. I don't consider Tri-X or TMax films for BW since long time ago due to their price, and it is something common for others in the old continent.

Similar in uk at best prices 35mm tri-x is ca £9.95 vs £7.95 for hp5 - 25% higher.
In 120 the gap is smaller £37-42 for tri-x packs and £34 for 5x hp5 - 10% higher

A year ago and the tri-x 120 was priced about £52! before the january 24 price cut. There were a lot of short dated kodak 120 packs on sale this year!

 

[Alex Benjamin]

At B&H there's a $0.04 difference between Ilford & Kodak in 35mm. And $1.40 difference on a propack or 5 rolls of 120. It's not enough for me to cut either of those brands out of the equation.....

In Montreal, a 35mm roll of HP5+ (36) is around 13.00$, while Tri-X is 16.00$; a 120 roll of HP5+ is 12.00$ while the same in Tri-X is 18.00$.

I mostly shoot 120 these days, and I shoot a lot of it, so price is a factor. I've learned to get the results I like with HP5+, so I've eliminated Tri-X from my workflow in that format. 35mm is another matter. I do prefer Tri-X, but the price difference is still a factor.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

In Europe Tri-X is €2 more expensive than HP5+ per roll, and that difference was more than € 3 per roll a couple of years ago but Ilford has raised the price and narrow it. I don't consider Tri-X or TMax films for BW since long time ago due to their price, and it is something common for others in the old continent.

I note that this references distributor's prices, in the EU.
So there may be little or no connection with the prices charged by KA in other parts of the world.

Isn't Ilford made in Great Britain, so there are no import duties like Kodak film made in the USA? Are VAT taxes different as well?

 

[Anon Ymous]

Isn't Ilford made in Great Britain, so there are no import duties like Kodak film made in the USA? Are VAT taxes different as well?

UK isn't a member of the EU for some years now. VAT rates are the same for any film, regardless of origin.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

UK isn't a member of the EU for some years now. VAT rates are the same for any film, regardless of origin.

Well there are no import duties in the UK for Ilford then compared to Kodak making Kodak priced higher all other things remaining equal. Also, aren't there VAT taxes on Ilford products in the UK at the earlier sale stages whereas Kodak has no VAT taxes until the final sale?

 

[brbo]

Well there are no import duties in the UK for Ilford then compared to Kodak making Kodak priced higher all other things remaining equal. Also, aren't there VAT taxes on Ilford products in the UK at the earlier sale stages whereas Kodak has no VAT taxes until the final sale?

AFAIK there are no UK import duties on USA film and you obviously don't understand how VAT system works (in short, VAT can't be the source of the price difference between UK or USA produced film).

 

[Sirius Glass]

I will still continue to by Kodak and Rollei film as my mainline choices and Ilford as needed. I just roll with the price changes.

 

[GregY]

In Montreal, a 35mm roll of HP5+ (36) is around 13.00$, while Tri-X is 16.00$; a 120 roll of HP5+ is 12.00$ while the same in Tri-X is 18.00$.

I mostly shoot 120 these days, and I shoot a lot of it, so price is a factor. I've learned to get the results I like with HP5+, so I've eliminated Tri-X from my workflow in that format. 35mm is another matter. I do prefer Tri-X, but the price difference is still a factor.

Alex.... the price difference in Alberta is similar. About a $6 (Cdn) difference per roll of 120. I don't use much LF any more...so more MF & I order fair size quantities from B&H.... with their free shipping to Canada....it's a big saving.
BTW I remember ordering 50 roll boxes of HP5 from B&H!
Alex, in addition that' delivered to my door & saves me half a day to drive to Calgary and back.

 

[mshchem]

In Montreal, a 35mm roll of HP5+ (36) is around 13.00$, while Tri-X is 16.00$; a 120 roll of HP5+ is 12.00$ while the same in Tri-X is 18.00$.

I mostly shoot 120 these days, and I shoot a lot of it, so price is a factor. I've learned to get the results I like with HP5+, so I've eliminated Tri-X from my workflow in that format. 35mm is another matter. I do prefer Tri-X, but the price difference is still a factor.

USD or CDN ?

 

[koraks]

Well there are no import duties in the UK for Ilford then compared to Kodak making Kodak priced higher all other things remaining equal.

Yes, this does indeed affect end user price levels in the UK.

Also, aren't there VAT taxes on Ilford products in the UK at the earlier sale stages whereas Kodak has no VAT taxes until the final sale?

I understand this is a bit of an alien concept for someone from the US. Here's a thorough explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax It boils down to the fairly straightforward situation where everyone pays VAT, but only the final user has no means of being reimbursed for VAT paid. The net result is that tax is only paid on the total value added - hence the name.
Having said that, from here on, we go back to the topic of Kodak pricing and let's not dwell on the question how VAT works (let alone whether it's a good or a bad idea).

 

[brbo]

Yes, this does indeed affect end user price levels in the UK.

If I understand that correctly, you are saying that there are import tariffs in place in UK for photographic films?

 

[koraks]

If I understand that correctly, you are saying that there are import tariffs in place in UK for photographic films?

I assume there are in the UK for imports to the UK from outside the UK (such as Kodak film). I don't know for sure and I haven't verified. If I'm wrong, I stand corrected.

 

[MattKing]

There will be tariff provisions.
Whether or not the duty rate is set to 0%, or to some different percentage, will depend on the wording of the tariff provision and such factors as the country of origin.

 

[brbo]

I assume there are in the UK for imports...

For non-agriculture products and non-vital supply chain products I'd first assume the rate to be 0%.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/headings/3702?day=1&month=12&year=2024

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

AFAIK there are no UK import duties on USA film and you obviously don't understand how VAT system works (in short, VAT can't be the source of the price difference between UK or USA produced film).

So explain it to me. I agree I';m no expert on the VAT system

Yes, this does indeed affect end user price levels in the UK.



I understand this is a bit of an alien concept for someone from the US. Here's a thorough explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value-added_tax It boils down to the fairly straightforward situation where everyone pays VAT, but only the final user has no means of being reimbursed for VAT paid. The net result is that tax is only paid on the total value added - hence the name.
Having said that, from here on, we go back to the topic of Kodak pricing and let's not dwell on the question how VAT works (let alone whether it's a good or a bad idea).

I wasn;t trying to get into a discussion about whether VAT or import duties are good or bad. Just that it affects the price difference between foreign and domestically produced film to us final users. The price situation could be totally different in the USA or elsewhere. So VAT and tariffs have to be considered when comparing the cost of film on an international forum.

 

[GregY]

USD or CDN ?

Those are CDN $$ prices.
$6 cdn a roll / $4.25 USD difference buying in Canada vs buying from B&H.....

 

[koraks]

So VAT and tariffs have to be considered when comparing the cost of film on an international forum.

Yes. However, explaining how VAT works is outside of scope. We'll leave it at the Wiki link I provided and the web search you can do yourself.