the company is known to me and is reliable;this would be the right thing for me, being one-handed;very intriguing.More details on their Facebook page, but they have a lot to explain before anyone plunks down some money!
https://www.facebook.com/labboxfilmtank
enough info for me; Im in!"Not many details" seems to be a bit of an understatement. I'm following along because I'm curious, but I expect they'll have a hard time overcoming the simplicity of something like a Paterson tank and changing bag.
After all, the changing bag isn't a terribly large item to store, and is kind of useful for a range of tasks. I'm very curious as to what they have to say about what to do if the reel jams on you while you're trying to load important photos. "Put it in a changing bag or take it to a dark room"?
Do you really see a benefit?If I were new to film processing, this would look like a very attractive alternative to what is already available.
This would be the right thing for me, being one-handed; very intriguing.
In case you'll get one, please inform us on it being usable onehandedly.enough info for me; Im in!
Do you really see a benefit?
As said the Agfa ones likely suffered over time, but then there are stull fully usable Jobo ones.
But more important, is there a benefit from daylight loading that weighs up against the shortcomings of all those tanks?
Interestingly Jobo did not restart producing their latest model.
One of these would have been great in my university dorm room while I was at law school.Why do people want these silly expensive goofy machines?
I loaded my Paterson tank in my closet of my dorm room. The university darkroom was like all community darkrooms not under my absolute authority. I loved inverting my tank, with (probably ) Microdol-X running down my hands from my beloved System 4 tank.One of these would have been great in my university dorm room while I was at law school.
No student accessible darkroom at the university, and no sink in my room.
I loaded my Paterson tank in my closet of my dorm room. The university darkroom was like all community darkrooms not under my absolute authority. I loved inverting my tank, with (probably ) Microdol-X running down my hands from my beloved System 4 tank.
I still think these are major league dorky. I would not want to be seen using one, so as long as I had the lights off..........Paterson.
This is the type of thing that might be attractive to people who are new to film processing, especially students whose living arrangements don’t include a closet...
Why do people want these silly expensive goofy machines?
Looks like it will solve mankind's existential problem of going in a clothes closet to load film on a stainless steel reel. You really don't need a "darkroom" to load film, you need a "dark room".
Well said! I am constantly bemused at folks who don't seem to have a closet. Perhaps it is a cultural thing. I have two large closets and two windowless bathrooms. But I do understand the closets are uncommon in Europe.
daylight tanks like this have been around for a long long time. i have an agfa one that is made of bakelight and at least 60 years old.Why do people want these silly expensive goofy machines?
Here's my solution. I can load anything now. I have peripheral idiopathic neuropathy, which is a fancy way of saying I have numbness in my hands and feet. I use IR goggles, without these, I would be dead. I never had problems with Paterson reels or film hangers when I was young, but I'm not gifted when it comes to handiwork!In addition to the "dark space" issue, I wonder if the bigger motivator for this kind of equipment is the issues with loading reels in the dark. I have stainless steel reels that I have tried to make work and I have ruined more rolls than I have successfully developed with them. I eventually gave up and bought a Patterson tank, but I couldn't load that with any reliability either. I replaced the Patterson reels with some that Freestyle sells that have a wider slot to guide the film in, and I get pretty decent reliability with those, but it still f's up with some regularity, and I have to figure out a way to unspool half the roll in complete darkness to start over, which is quite difficult because separating the halves with film half loaded mangles up the film pretty significantly. I know that I am more clumsy than the average person, and plenty of people have no issues with stainless or Patterson, but I'm not the only person that has these issues.
All that said I have found the perfect system that I can always load in the dark--the Kodacraft aprons. But they aren't sold any more. I don't really have an interest in these lab-box type system, but people that have been home processing for 20 years may have forgotten how much anxiety there can be loading those reels when you're new to it.
Looks like a copy of the old Agfa units. Whatever suits the userI’ve looked into those, but for now my other options work. I’d also say that I don’t think these options (metal reels, Paterson reels) are necessarily hard, obviously millions of people have mastered them, but there is still an anxiety for new users that might be assuaged by more automated tools.
Looks like it will solve mankind's existential problem of going in a clothes closet to load film on a stainless steel reel.
I started without any textbook, let alone video or internet. Let alone a darkroom.I don't really have an interest in these lab-box type system, but people that have been home processing for 20 years may have forgotten how much anxiety there can be loading those reels when you're new to it.
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