My Heart Temu Film

[Andrew O'Neill]

This looks like a complete waste of money...

 

[xkaes]

This has been discussed in another recent thread. Apparently, there are a lot of people selling "stuff" that really isn't what is advertised. It's pretty obvious.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

This has been discussed in another recent thread. Apparently, there are a lot of people selling "stuff" that really isn't what is advertised. It's pretty obvious.

I did a quick search, but found nothing. Could you link the discussion thread, please?

 

[xkaes]

I wish I could, but it may not have been on this FORUM. I didn't pay any attention to it. It was basically people mentioning TEMU and other places with various"film scams", such as people getting film that really wasn't film. Perhaps if you went to TEMU you could uncover some of this crap pretty easily.

 

[Rick A]

I refuse to do any business with TEMU, for any reason. I always block all of their ads when they pop up.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I never heard of TEMU until this video. Had no idea it was a store.

 

[pentaxuser]

This looks like a complete waste of money...

Clearly it depends on whether you are buying or selling it. Same goes for the Golden Gate bridge. doesn't it? I nearly bought that once but fortunately Jimmy Stewart was selling the 1954 version of Kim Novak whom he has just rescued so I bought her instead

pentaxuser

 

[AERO]

Its also being sold on ALiexpress as well.......

 

[Sirius Glass]

I refuse to do any business with TEMU, for any reason. I always block all of their ads when they pop up.

I will avoid them too. Thank you for the head's up.

 

[xkaes]

I never heard of TEMU until this video. Had no idea it was a store.

Temu is just like AMAZON. Stuff is sold on their website, but the company, TEMU, is not selling it. They are just a platform for sales by whoever.

I heard on CBS this morning, that 80% of the stuff sold on Amazon is from independent vendors. Amazon just gets a PC of every sale.

It's difficult to believe that such a simple notion/idea -- an on-line sales platform -- would create a multi-billionaire.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Temu is just like AMAZON. Stuff is sold on their website, but the company, TEMU, is not selling it. They are just a platform for sales by whoever.

I heard on CBS this morning, that 80% of the stuff sold on Amazon is from independent vendors. Amazon just gets a PC of every sale.

It's difficult to believe that such a simple notion/idea -- an on-line sales platform -- would create a multi-billionaire.

Thank you for the clarification. TEMU is the transport and the market, not the suppliers.

 

[AERO]

Thank you for the clarification. TEMU is the transport and the market, not the suppliers.

Same with ALIexpress. - a sales platform....they are part of the Alibaba Group.

 

[lamerko]

We laughed at this clip a while back. It's basically the same thing

 

[loccdor]

When you have a growing, uneducated market, the scammers are going to see an opportunity. If you've taken a look at expired film prices recently, it's no surprise!

This is the year that I'm settling down to shoot with a handful of old reliables...

 

[Tel]

What puzzles me is where they get the film. It looks like professionally-confected (is that a word?) film but it’s only four frames long. I remember back in the day, before Arri stopped making new film cameras, that DPs could get motion picture stocks loaded into still-film cassettes for test shooting on locations and such. But 4 frames??? It’s still a puzzle: who would temu get to load these things?

 

[lamerko]

This is Kodak Vision. They have several versions - the one in both videos has remjet removed. The idea is to allow the film to be processed in C41 chemistry without contaminating it. In the second clip it is not clear whether the film is old or they damaged it when trying to remove the remjet. In my opinion - they damaged it.
As for the "professional" look of the packaging - they probably hired a line for factory finishing - cassettes and winding, printing, and boxes.

 

[Yezishu]

Typical chinese scammers. Their common tactic is to remove the Ramjet from old cinema film (such as Kodak 5217, 5219, etc.) or to extract film from expired disposable cameras (like Fuji cameras with ISO 800 film), and then rebrand it as C41 film. A similar example is Lucky SHD400; although Lucky officially markets it as a new film, it might actually be aerial film that's over ten years old. They can easily repackage 1000ft kodak vision film into smaller rolls in a darkroom. Although non-professional handling can sometimes cause light leaks and scratches, users won't know until after developing the film. In the first video, the claimed ISO and DX code don't match, this is because the DX code comes from randomly recycled cassettes. In China, customizing boxes and labers to give them some professional looking is also not expensive.

If sellers were honest about what they were offering (for example, Kodak 5217 produced in 2016, which is now 10 years expired and needs to be shot at ISO 100 due to aging, and provide some C41 or ECN2 processed samples for evaluating color shifts), it might be acceptable. In a much better scenario, Cinestill offers guaranteed freshly produced cinema film with the Ramjet layer removed for C41. However, I think those unknown film brands on AliExpress or other platforms are not worth the risk.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

It's cheaper just to buy a roll of good old Kodak Gold.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Same with ALIexpress. - a sales platform....they are part of the Alibaba Group.

That is a China based company, correct?

 

[pentaxuser]

When you have a growing, uneducated market, the scammers are going to see an opportunity. If you've taken a look at expired film prices recently, it's no surprise!

This is the year that I'm settling down to shoot with a handful of old reliables...

Might it not be sensible to consider shooting the growing uneducated market or the scammers. Doing so to either group eliminates the problem

pentaxuser

 

[xkaes]

This is Kodak Vision. They have several versions - the one in both videos has remjet removed. The idea is to allow the film to be processed in C41 chemistry without contaminating it. In the second clip it is not clear whether the film is old or they damaged it when trying to remove the remjet. In my opinion - they damaged it.
As for the "professional" look of the packaging - they probably hired a line for factory finishing - cassettes and winding, printing, and boxes.

An ran across a review of the ONN 35mm camera -- about $20 including a roll of film. It's probably sold under other labels. Looks almost like the Kodak H35 (and others) but is full frame, has a flash (that you can turn ON or OFF), has a 28mm f8 (probably 1-element) lens with a 1/125s shutter. It comes with a roll of film, so the camera is really inexpensive -- but reloadable.

It turned out the "400" speed film was expired Vision 250D with a remjet backing. The results were horrible, of course, so the reviewer trashed the camera -- but with good 100/200 speed film, it appears to me, that the camera would be a good bet for someone wanting to get into full-frame, 35mm "lomography".

 

[MultiFormat Shooter]

However, I think those unknown film brands on AliExpress or other platforms are not worth the risk.

It's cheaper just to buy a roll of good old Kodak Gold.

to both

 

[AERO]

That is a China based company, correct?

Yep....