I think the parents would be prosecuted under today's laws.
Later in life, the girl in the Child in Forest wrote that she was told to take her clothes off by her father and later had mixed feelings about the whole results that affected her life. Both her mother and father were involved in setting up the photograph. I think the parents would be prosecuted under today's laws.
The irony - in my mind - is that few see the connections between the effects that their respective work have on us.
….. Fortunately, we still can't go to jail for our thoughts.
…..due to the publicity around religious authority abusing children, and even civilian authority like scout masters abusing children away at camp….
We are in the weeds now, aren't we?!
Later in life, the girl in the Child in Forest wrote that she was told to take her clothes off by her father and later had mixed feelings about the whole results that affected her life. Both her mother and father were involved in setting up the photograph. I think the parents would be prosecuted under today's laws.
Alan,
Would, or should?
What do you think should happen with the Fort Worth/Sally Mann case? What would be the correct outcome, in your opinion?
Just a point of clarity. While the scouts are not a religious organization, they do have a religious element. Their denial of membership to atheist kids was a big case about 35-years ago or so. A couple years ago my neighbor kid was finishing up his Eagle Scout merit badges and I helped him with the photography one, teaching him film work and turning him loose in my darkroom. When it came time for a BSA counselor to review his work, there wasn’t one in the state and I was asked to sign on and do so. I had to take a 4-hour online course to get “certified” and the bulk of the content was around bullying and preventing sexual abuse. Also, I was required to sign that regardless of my own beliefs or non-beliefs, I had to agree to “abide” by the organization’s “religious element.”
Read the whole essay.
Not just the short part about short term discomfort.
They are a junior pitchfork-wielding mob until they learn tolerance
Hasn't this thread run out of oxygen yet?
OK, now you've done it. I'm actually going to take her book off the shelf and have a look at it.
What that excerpt describes isn't the girl realising the wrongness of what she and her parents had done, but the meanness of kids who knew no better, and the failure of the teacher to teach at a critical moment.
If the knee-jerk giggles and mockery of a class of junior school kids were enough to condemn an idea, we'd have no vegetarians or methodists, no tall people, and nobody would ever get a new haircut without fear. They are a junior pitchfork-wielding mob until they learn tolerance; we shouldn't frame our ideas of what's right round that reaction.
To be way out in the weeds, ( We are in the weeds now, aren't we?! ) The King or Queen is by that office also the Head of the Anglican Church. "Charles III D.G. REX " being on the Current coins. (By the Grace of God King) thus the crowning taking place in Westminster AbbeyNo alternative is offered to the promise to do one's duty to the King.
What that excerpt describes isn't the girl realising the wrongness of what she and her parents had done, but the meanness of kids who knew no better, and the failure of the teacher to teach at a critical moment.
If the knee-jerk giggles and mockery of a class of junior school kids were enough to condemn an idea, we'd have no vegetarians or methodists, no tall people, and nobody would ever get a new haircut without fear. They are a junior pitchfork-wielding mob until they learn tolerance; we shouldn't frame our ideas of what's right round that reaction.
Certainly, you could see the difference between trying out a new haircut and stripping your child naked for a photograph in the woods that is then published publicly throughout the world. Everyone would agree that it's fine for an adult to try out new art that affects only them. But to drag your own child into that art and demean her is child abuse.
Certainly, you could see the difference between trying out a new haircut and stripping your child naked for a photograph in the woods that is then published publicly throughout the world. Everyone would agree that it's fine for an adult to try out new art that affects only them. But to drag your own child into that art and demean her is child abuse.
I'm gobsmacked. I can't believe people here would undress their 10-year-old daughters naked in the woods to take pictures that they would then publish publicly.
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