Tri-Colour Gum Using 3 8x10 Negatives

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Very interesting! What a process..........what was the length of darkroom time to get to the final dried print?
 

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I have never seen or heard of using dilute PVA for sizing. I wonder if that would work for Platinum.
 
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Very interesting! What a process..........what was the length of darkroom time to get to the final dried print?

A couple of days. If I rush it (with a blow dryer, but that is not a good idea when working with dichromates, so I avoid that), a day.
 
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I have never seen or heard of using dilute PVA for sizing. I wonder if that would work for Platinum.

Not sure if it would work for platinum... I'm thinking it won't. Gum sits on top of the paper. Platinum sits in the paper.
 

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Nice print. Could you please explain your choice of colours?
Usually it is blue filter -> yellow dye; green -> magenta and red -> cyan.
In your process it is blue -> yellow; green -> red and red -> blue.
 

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After practicing with 4x5 film, I felt confident to move up to 8x10. I was quite happy with my first attempt, although some mild tweaking more forward.


That is an absolutely beautiful result. If you don't mind answering: Are you using potassium or ammonium bichromate? How difficult is it to get hold of? What PPE do you use during mix-up of the dichromate?
 
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That is an absolutely beautiful result. If you don't mind answering: Are you using potassium or ammonium bichromate? How difficult is it to get hold of? What PPE do you use during mix-up of the dichromate?

For gum I use Potassium Dichromate. I have been using the same 1 kg batch that I bought back in 2008. So very little is used, that it lasts you a long time. I wear gloves when handling it. Spent and very diluted dichromate (as briefly shown in the video) is neutralised with Vitamin C, before discarding.
 
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Nice print. Could you please explain your choice of colours?
Usually it is blue filter -> yellow dye; green -> magenta and red -> cyan.
In your process it is blue -> yellow; green -> red and red -> blue.

Blue neg = yellow pigment
Green neg = red pigment
Red neg = blue pigment
 
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I am puzzling the same as Romanco. Your colours are at odds with the usual colour wheel. Do they just have to be that way or is there a particular reason?
In any case nicely done as usual.
I've always used yellow pigment for the blue filtered negative, red pigment for the green filtered negative, and blue pigment for the red filtered negative... I learnt this back in the 80's, when I was doing tri-colour lithography.
 

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I've always used yellow pigment for the blue filtered negative, red pigment for the green filtered negative, and blue pigment for the red filtered negative... I learnt this back in the 80's, when I was doing tri-colour lithography.

I had always assumed that this was the way for Tri-colour prints but I suppose it raises two questions: 1 Is it this way simply because it was the way it was started and had never been developed further orare there other reasons for it being red, yellow and blue?

2. Would magenta and cyan pigments produce more authentic colours and if so would it produce a better effect and better by what standard?

I have no real way of knowing short of it being tried but I do doubt if I'd prefer the look


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