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Kopil Zoom 8 EE

#1
I've just obtained a Kopil Zoom 8 EE standard 8mm camera. I have a couple of questions.

Does anyone know the battery for the light meter? An old one was in the compartment but it has no designation on it, merely a patent number. It is a cylinder apprix 15mm diamater, 17mm long. 1.2V originally but I would assume any modern equivalent would be 1.5V.

Also how does one change the film speed? The ISO dial for the meter has speeds but these seem to adjust only the light entering the meter. The motor runs at the same speed regardless.
 
#3
That's possible, while it's very well made it is likely not a higher end camera. Though I find it odd that the light meter not only has an adjuster ring for ISO 10 to 400 but an additional ring for 12,16,24 and 36 fps. The instructions don't appear to be available anywhere online, at least not without paying more than I did for the camera.
 
#4
That's possible, while it's very well made it is likely not a higher end camera. Though I find it odd that the light meter not only has an adjuster ring for ISO 10 to 400 but an additional ring for 12,16,24 and 36 fps. The instructions don't appear to be available anywhere online, at least not without paying more than I did for the camera.

If you click on the above link, it has a copy of the manual on the website.
 
#6
It looks like there is a more advanced Kopil model with 12, 16 and 24 fps options....but the light meter on both is adjustable for the different speeds even though the lower model doesn't need this feature!
 
#8
Definitely confusing.

I applied 1.3V to the battery terminals from a bench power supply and the meter came to life, so identified the likely battery from it's dimensions and purchased the modern alkaline 1.5V equivalent. With a bit of ISO adjustment it works, so the camera is likely functional. I like it...heavy but well made and the spring motor can run for a good 45 seconds at a time. It's loaded with film but I have nothing specific to shoot at this time so it may be a while before I do so. Meanwhile I bid and won an auction for the better version with the speed control. So I guess I'll have two Kopil cameras unless I sell one.
 
#9
Well, my motion picture instructor in college told me the ultimate rule is; "motion pictures move. Static subjects should be kept to an appropriately low level..." However, even still subjects can be made to "move" with photokinestatis and animation.

If you are of the type who likes animation, but wants to start out easy, I highly suggest you source out a copy of Terry Gilliam's "Animations of Morality". You can combine cut out photos and stop motion like he did for Monty Python without having to worry a lot about drawing images, sculpting clay or other labor intensive processes. He advocates being lazy and cutting corners, but in a creative way.
 
#11
Quick update, camera appears to be running a bit slow but I don't mind and I can get almost 5 minutes per reel that way :smile:

I shot the second half of a roll I started in another camera, and it came out OK so I shot some 400ASA B&W negative film at a jazz club in the Kopil, processed it in my Lomo tank and it came out beautifully.

the higher end model I ended up buying was broken, no image in the viewfinder. Could just be the mirror has come unglued inside, but I cannot figure out how to get inside!
 
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