try their new metropolis film, it's even better. speaking of 110 format, don't forget the pentax with it's interchangeable lenses. that one also shows the limitations of the film.....The thing with the Minolta was it had manual focus and aperture control which meant you could get sharper focus than the fixed focus f10 jobbies that most 110 cameras were. I would say that with most 110 cameras you saw the limitations of the optics, with the Minolta 110 Zoom SLR you saw the limitations of the format. It would be interesting indeed to see what one can do with modern film and scanning. I've shot Tiger in a "normal" 110 camera and really liked it.
Minolta 16II has a very sharp lens. With the Minolta 16II one needs to have correct focus lens for the scene and correct aperture. Usually not more than 2 stops down for critical sharpness. Film has to be capable of resolving the image too.
The better Agfa ones have Tessar-types. One model even focusing down to 25 centimeters.I'd be very surprised if any submini camera other than a Minox with Complan or Kodak with Ektar has anything other than a triplet
Looks good, can you duplicate that with the Minolta?
Wouldn't that be a bad girl?
There was a huge price discrepancy between mail envelope processing, and pro lab C41. 110 was a sub-miniature format that required expert handling, which it very rarely received.Still easier to load but most drugstore processing never came up to the standards that Kodak showed was possible with the 13x17 negative with expert care. Of course typical machine processing of 35mm could also be quite bad. But still, most people were happy with the then 3.5x5 inch ‘album prints’ that got pasted into the family albums.
Do you only have one sample of the 16II? I’ve only shot B&W with mine (Actually have several, they were so cheap) but usually get better results. I make enlargements of about 12x on 5X7 paper. But, as noted, the ‘0’ correction lens is on the camera almost all the time, so focus is at 33 ft. And my everyday 16II is modified and can take a homemade device that clips on a modified accessory shoe so that I can use series 5 close up lenses if I need to.Minolta 16II, Vision3 50D
Not my sharpest camera I'd say...
Have to admit, I’ve gone to silly lengths to get around the problems of the 16II’s fixed focus lens. If I had any sense it would be much better just to buy another Kiev 30 and be done with it. All my Minolta 16 cartridges will fit and the bigger negative and focusing lens will more than compensate for the slower top shutter speed and lack of a ‘B’ setting. Probably less than $50 from Russia or Ukraine.
Edit: Just checked ebay, Kiev 30 can be had for less than $40!
that's a chance as well. you know that the frame would be lost anyway. so you do something with it at least. and sometimes, it's quite nice...Kiev 30 and Kiev 303 are my favorite subminis. My only complaint is that if I open the camera and then don't make the exposure for one reason or another, the frame is lost, because it always advances on closing.
And my 16II and Minox IIIs do the same thing, so...all in all, no loss there.Kiev 30 and Kiev 303 are my favorite subminis. My only complaint is that if I open the camera and then don't make the exposure for one reason or another, the frame is lost, because it always advances on closing.
Do you not have the close up and distance lens set? None of these 16mm cameras a perfect at everything. I'm still looking for the perfect one. Each has different compromises. Good thing is most are pretty inexpensive and easy to store. So I'd recommend trying as many different types as you can. A lot of 16mm photography is based on fun.Have to admit, I’ve gone to silly lengths to get around the problems of the 16II’s fixed focus lens.
Yep, have the set, the #0 #1 and #2. Normally one has to open the camera to shooting position to slip on a lens. With my main 16II that bothered me so I attached a thin piece of aluminum with a slot for the filter to the camera so I can slip on or off lenses without opening the camera. The lens being an extra 1.5mm or so out from the lens doesn’t seem to make any difference in the results. Just cannot resist the urge to tinker. Always building some photographic contraption or another.Do you not have the close up and distance lens set? None of these 16mm cameras a perfect at everything. I'm still looking for the perfect one. Each has different compromises. Good thing is most are pretty inexpensive and easy to store. So I'd recommend trying as many different types as you can. A lot of 16mm photography is based on fun.
Edit: By the way, if anyone has any secrets about the ‘conversation with the missus’ I’m all ears.
Which made me realize that I hardly ever came across 16mm still cameras locally. I am not quite sure why. Likely reason is that in the respective period such japanese cameras typically only were sold by mail-order retailers.So I'd recommend trying as many different types as you can.
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