A NEW ISO 200 COLOR NEGATIVE FILM FROM ADOX

Kino · Feb 11, 2022

Lets break this out; not to whine but to see just what it would cost if 5 people wanted 10 rolls each in the US and one person acted as the purchasing agent.

50 rolls is 504 Euro.
Shipping is 39.75 Euro.
End amount in USD: $619.15 or $12.39 per roll.

If you wanted to split 50 rolls amongst 5 people, there are the additional PayPal fees and shipping from the central buyer to the other purchasers.

10 rolls @ $123.90
PayPal Fees of about $4.00
Shipping to secondary purchaser -- $5 to $20 depending upon "urgency"

$132.90 to 147.90 total or $13.29 to $14.90 per roll.

No compensation for the initial buyer's time/effort or the additional fees to this buyer to extract the funds from PayPal...

In the end, it's not all that bad but the initial buyer would have to have iron clad guarantees of purchase from the other 4 participants.

Auer · Feb 11, 2022

I'm gonna guess that Adox can very well afford to let things go they way they are, the U.S. market might not be all than necessary to them.

Maybe the supply and demand will work out great for them as is.

Auer · Feb 11, 2022

From the Adox Instagram:

Sal Santamaura · Feb 11, 2022

Donald Qualls said:
Except now they're charging more than US$60 to get a couple rolls of film from Berlin into US Postal System. Recent report is this is taking less than two weeks now, but that cost is excessive.

37.65 Euros converts to $43.25 US, not "more than $60." Not inexpensive, but, given the world's situation right now, not what I consider "excessive."

mshchem · Feb 11, 2022

If the supply and demand are adequate we will see this at Freestyle and others. By Adox selling direct they maximize the revenue targeted for R&D. I am waiting for customer photos.

mtnbkr · Feb 11, 2022

Sal Santamaura said:
37.65 Euros converts to $43.25 US, not "more than $60." Not inexpensive, but, given the world's situation right now, not what I consider "excessive."

Umm, yes it is. I've shipped more than "a couple rolls of film" to the UK and China for less in the past year.

Chris

Sal Santamaura · Feb 11, 2022

Sal Santamaura said:
...not what I consider "excessive."

mtnbkr said:
Umm, yes it is...

No, it isn't. It might be what you consider excessive, but not what I do.

mtnbkr said:
...I've shipped more than "a couple rolls of film" to the UK and China for less in the past year...

What has been your cost to have "a couple of rolls of film" shipped to you from Germany in the past year? Not from ADOX, but from any individual or entity there? How about Japan? I recently purchased a small lens cap from Japan that cost $11 but incurred a shipping charge of $33.

flavio81 · Feb 11, 2022

Donald Qualls said:
I've read that Fotoimpex is working on this, but at the corporate level, it's not as simple as going to the UPS Store instead of FedEx Kinko's (or vice versa) to ship the orders. Worse, I think I recall that there are limited options just to get international shipment out of Germany.

Not so sure about the latter, last year i bought from germany about 3 or 4 times, using deutsche post (which is operated by DHL inside germany but then changes hands to the post office on the destination country/etc), and also using FedEx if i recall correctly.

mtnbkr · Feb 11, 2022

Sal Santamaura said:
No, it isn't. It might be what you consider excessive, but not what I do.What has been your cost to have "a couple of rolls of film" shipped to you from Germany in the past year? Not from ADOX, but from any individual or entity there? How about Japan? I recently purchased a small lens cap from Japan that cost $11 but incurred a shipping charge of $33.

I wasn't shipping film from Germany, but in one case I shipped a box full of stuff weighing a few, maybe 3-4, pounds to Europe for around $30ish via USPS. That box probably would have held several dozen rolls. Two rolls of film fitting in a small padded envelope should not cost $42. Well, I suppose it will cost that, but I won't pay it. I'd rather spend more of my money on actual film than shipping costs that benefit nobody but DHL. Thing is, I'd spend $65 on film, but not that on a mere 2 rolls and shipping.

Chris

AgX · Feb 11, 2022

flavio81 said:
deutsche post, which is operated by DHL inside germany

The other way round: DHL is owned by Deutsche Post, wo use them as their parcel carrier within Germany.

Sal Santamaura · Feb 11, 2022

mtnbkr said:
I wasn't shipping film from Germany, but in one case I shipped a box full of stuff weighing a few, maybe 3-4, pounds to Europe for around $30ish via USPS...

I guess you ought move to Europe, convince FOTOIMPEX to move to the U.S. and then order film from here to Germany. That's the only way your experience could become relevant to ADOX COLOR MISSION shipping cost.

Radost · Feb 11, 2022

I receive heavy DHL packages from Japan and it is $30-$40.
I think the germans are punishing us americans

AgX · Feb 11, 2022

Radost said:
I think the germans are punishing us americans

What a nonsense.

Sending a 1kg parcel from the USA to Germany costs 4-times as much as the other way round
For a 5kg parcel it still is 2-times.

Add to this that you Americans do not pay VAT and customs duties...

Radost · Feb 11, 2022

AgX said:
What a nonsense.

Sending a 1kg parcel from the USA to Germany costs 4-times as much as the other way round
For a 5kg parcel it still is 2-times.

Add to this that you Americans do not pay VAT and customs duties...

Correct. You are right. Shipping from here USA to Germany is a lot more expansive.
But my point is different. DHL from Asia or eastern europe through DHL is a lot cheaper than DHL from Germany to USA. DHL from Germany is extremely expansive.

Steve@f8 · Feb 11, 2022

Purchase Tax (VAT) of 20% plus shipping to the U.K. - no longer part of the EU - makes it a hard sell. Unfortunately I will probably sit this one out, sadly.

brbo · Feb 11, 2022

Steve@f8 said:
Purchase Tax (VAT) of 20% plus shipping to the U.K. - no longer part of the EU - makes it a hard sell. Unfortunately I will probably sit this one out, sadly.

And when did you not have to pay VAT (and shipping)?

AgX · Feb 11, 2022

Radost said:
But my point is different. DHL from Asia or eastern europe through DHL is a lot cheaper than DHL from Germany to USA. DHL from Germany is extremely expansive.

Let's say, our bith points is that shipping costs vary vastly over regions and directions, and that it is hard to understand why.

hoffy · Feb 12, 2022

Anyhow, trying to get this ever so slightly back on track..

This is exciting to see a new colour film on the market. Good to see that its going to help fund making more colour film in the future. This is great.

I just hope that they eventually sell it in all formats, including sheet film.

Tom Kershaw · Feb 12, 2022

Steve@f8 said:
Purchase Tax (VAT) of 20% plus shipping to the U.K. - no longer part of the EU - makes it a hard sell. Unfortunately I will probably sit this one out, sadly.

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foc · Feb 12, 2022

mshchem said:
I am waiting for customer photos.

This is from the "New Adox Colour Mission Film" thread, posted by @Joerg Bergs .

https://www.meinfilmlab.de/adox-color-mission-200/

Personally, I like the look of this film, especially the grain.

Kino · Feb 12, 2022

I think the color pallet is amazing and unique without being obnoxious.

Kudos to Adox!

mshchem · Feb 12, 2022

foc said:
This is from the "New Adox Colour Mission Film" thread, posted by @Joerg Bergs .

https://www.meinfilmlab.de/adox-color-mission-200/

Personally, I like the look of this film, especially the grain.

Yes, I agree. I like what I see. I doubt I will be using in the near term. However I really think Adox is doing great things with more to come. If Freestyle stocks I will be ordering a couple rolls.
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Steve@f8 · Feb 12, 2022

brbo said:
And when did you not have to pay VAT (and shipping)?

Did I say or imply that?
Just to clarify, with the U.K. no longer being part of the custom union, vat is levied. Shipping is a separate cost and varies with the buggeration added by the transport companies, with their lorries have to queue days on end negotiating customs clearance. Airmail might be more predictable in terms of delivery cost. Bizarrely it’s more predictable importing from Japan and I avoid anything from the EU.
Very sad situation.

pentaxuser · Feb 12, 2022

AgX said:
Let's say, our bith points is that shipping costs vary vastly over regions and directions, and that it is hard to understand why.

AgX , that sounds like a pretty accurate summary to me.

pentaxuser

Steve@f8 · Feb 12, 2022

foc said:
This is from the "New Adox Colour Mission Film" thread, posted by @Joerg Bergs .

https://www.meinfilmlab.de/adox-color-mission-200/

Personally, I like the look of this film, especially the grain.

Thank you.

A NEW ISO 200 COLOR NEGATIVE FILM FROM ADOX

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