Another Main Stream article on the interest in Film Photography

[Don_ih]

Well, he certainly likes hearing himself talk.

As opposed to someone who likes to read his own typing?

 

[warden]

Well, he certainly likes hearing himself talk.

He appears to be in his early/mid twenties and has been making YouTube content for all of two months. What on earth do you expect? He’s learning, and while he’s learning that video has 214,000 views in just six days. This is some of the worst content he’ll make if he keeps at it, and already it’s pretty good.

 

[Pieter12]

He appears to be in his early/mid twenties and has been making YouTube content for all of two months. What on earth do you expect? He’s learning, and while he’s learning that video has 214,000 views in just six days. This is some of the worst content he’ll make if he keeps at it, and already it’s pretty good.

It is well-produced, but complete BS.

 

[Pieter12]

As opposed to someone who likes to read his own typing?

Sure.

"Someone who "likes hearing himself talk" is often described as egocentric or narcissistic, meaning they have an inflated sense of self-importance and take great pleasure in hearing their own voice, often at the expense of actively listening to others."

 

[MattKing]

Having now read a variety of responses to the most recently linked to YouTube video, the Photrio moderation team suggests:
That is enough - you can move on now.
We are not a YouTube review resource.

 

[warden]

We are not a YouTube review resource.

Let’s change that. ;-)

Seriously, I’ve been meaning to post about the Darkroom Rumour (subscription based photography documentaries) but I’m not sure where my post should go. Maybe there’s a sub forum I’ve missed. Would enjoy hearing reviews.

 

[MattKing]

Links to useful YouTube resources are fine.
And discussions about the actual contents in the videos - techniques, materials, information communicated - they are fine as well.
So I guess in that way some "review" language is fine.
And as for the location, whatever seems appropriate - depends on the process - in the Darkroom section found here: https://www.photrio.com/forum/categories/darkroom.84/

 

[Agulliver]

Not going to comment directly on the recently linked video other than to say I actually enjoyed it.....but we here all need to accept that people like that young man will get into film photography and some of them will come here. They will have different reasons for using film and film cameras to most of us...but we should welcome them. They can learn from us, and we can learn from them. Because they are the future.

Articles like the original post in this thread will also bring new people to places like this. I see it in the magnetic tape scene, where it's been happening for a while. Here at Photrio we already have a handful of regular posters who are probably closer to 20 than to 30.

 

[Oldwino]

My take on the linked video? Hey, the kids alright. And, we live in a time when we have choices in our image-making techniques. That probably won't last forever (just based on history), so let's enjoy it, no matter the reasoning behind it.

 

[Brendan Quirk]

Two points on the "old things" video I like:

1. You own your media
2. Using old things the way they were originally used

I enjoy using my cameras and darkroom gear in the manner they were intended and as I have always used them. If I can create pleasing prints, so much the better. The prints can not be cancelled electronically!

(PS. I do historical reenactments)

 

[Agulliver]

I go two ways on the vintage/old equipment. Using it 100% the way it was originally intended, eg taking my wind up gramophone to a field or park for a picnic with friends. But also finding ways to make vintage tech work in the modern world.....eg my 1899 Folding pocket Kodak uses an aspect ratio which exactly matches that of most smartphone screens....so it's photos fit perfectly when posted to social media. Or finding that Kodak Gold 200, which I don't like with modern lenses, works great with 1930s/40s lenses with coating really aimed at B&W film.

The young people coming into film are mostly doing new and different things with it. I often wonder, had the internet existed when colour photography became mainstream.....would the older members of the community have been poo-pooing this modern development?

Right....I'm off to load some glass plates into the darkslides....

 

[Don_ih]

I often wonder, had the internet existed when colour photography became mainstream.....would the older members of the community have been poo-pooing this modern development?

They didn't need the internet to do that - they did it without it.

 

[loccdor]

They didn't need the internet to do that - they did it without it.

And the reverse was also surely true (color lovers disparaging black and white).

Anyway, I'm glad that people of all ages are interested in classic photography. The older people have lots of wisdom and knowledge to impart that won't be available forever. And the younger people will bring fresh experience to the medium.

newborn – we are tender and weak
in death – we are rigid and stiff


living plants are supple and yielding
dead branches are dry and brittle


so the hard and unyielding belong to death
and the soft and pliant belong to life


an inflexible army does not triumph
an unbending tree breaks in the wind


thus the rigid and inflexible will surely fail
while the soft and flowing will prevail

Tao Te Ching – Lao Tzu – chapter 76

 

[Pieter12]

I go two ways on the vintage/old equipment. Using it 100% the way it was originally intended, eg taking my wind up gramophone to a field or park for a picnic with friends. But also finding ways to make vintage tech work in the modern world.....eg my 1899 Folding pocket Kodak uses an aspect ratio which exactly matches that of most smartphone screens....so it's photos fit perfectly when posted to social media. Or finding that Kodak Gold 200, which I don't like with modern lenses, works great with 1930s/40s lenses with coating really aimed at B&W film.

The young people coming into film are mostly doing new and different things with it. I often wonder, had the internet existed when colour photography became mainstream.....would the older members of the community have been poo-pooing this modern development?

Right....I'm off to load some glass plates into the darkslides....

A lot of this nostalgia for things from a world people never lived in is an affectation. How many yearn for the kick-back from a Triumph single? And those who might, how many even have the strength to kick-start that Triumph? Does the young fellow in the video who expresses his liking of rotary telephones even have a land-line? Could he tell a carburetor from a water pump? Or does he just want to be an "influencer," get views, followers and sponsors? C'mon folks, get real.

 

[film4Me]

New to Photrio, but reading posts for info for many years.

I view younger generations trying film for the first time in the same vein as my curiosity in trying 100 year old folders. After decades of exposing film in SLRs, Point & Shoot compacts, and a motorized Bronica, my interest turned to antique folders and plate cameras. This is something I wasn't necessarily planning on doing, I just wondered what it would be like using one and what sort of results could be achieved. Consequently I bought a couple of cameras and precariously loaded film, any ol' bit of film to start with, and took them out, took some shots and was anxious to get home and develop the film. I was getting mixed results, but learning quickly the difference between these old cameras versus much more modern film cameras. I haven't looked back and expose film in them just as much as my other cameras just lately.

 

[Agulliver]

A lot of this nostalgia for things from a world people never lived in is an affectation. How many yearn for the kick-back from a Triumph single? And those who might, how many even have the strength to kick-start that Triumph? Does the young fellow in the video who expresses his liking of rotary telephones even have a land-line? Could he tell a carburetor from a water pump? Or does he just want to be an "influencer," get views, followers and sponsors? C'mon folks, get real.

I'm not going to knock the guy's enthusiasm. It seems totally genuine. He's found a hobby that he really enjoys and he's gone into it full tilt.

I know young people under 25 who are into film photography. And they all have varying reasons, different aspects of photography that they enjoy, learn at different paces....but the one thing they have in common is genuine enthusiasm for film. Be it shooting Kodak Gold in P&S cameras, using 35mm SLRs with B&W film, trying truly vintage gear or even super 8....be it photographing friends at parties, photographing protests from within them, studying photography and film making at uni with the intention of having a career. None of these people does film photography in the same way I do...but I am not for one moment doubting their enthusiasm.

 

[koraks]

I'm not going to knock the guy's enthusiasm.

Live & let live.

 

[loccdor]

Absolutely. When I'm arguing on the 'net it's a sign that I'm not getting out and clicking the shutter enough.