George Mann
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Which currently available film(s) make you think of Panatomic-X when you see or shoot them? In your opinion, are they similar, or equal to it?
I don't know how to answer this one. I still shoot Panatomic-X
George I’ve had a couple people mention my ortho 25 emulsion has similar grain and tonality to Pan X. Of course the spectral response is different and I’m hand-coating glass, but it made me start thinking about what it would take to replicate Pan X as a first potential film product (after what will undoubtedly be a few years of R&D). So your question has been on my mind lately as well, as well as how much interest there might be. Wouldn’t that be fun?
Whenever I see threads like this and interesting they are, I do wonder how many photographers of even many years experience could in a scientific test of say 100 prints pick out which 5 say were from Panatomic X at a percentage that meant that their results were statistically significant?
I appreciate that it is the kind of question that might suggest "troll" which it is not or at the very least is one of these questions where the genuine reply may be: " If you cannot tell then no-one else can explain it to you
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George I’ve had a couple people mention my ortho 25 emulsion has similar grain and tonality to Pan X. Of course the spectral response is different and I’m hand-coating glass, but it made me start thinking about what it would take to replicate Pan X as a first potential film product (after what will undoubtedly be a few years of R&D). So your question has been on my mind lately as well, as well as how much interest there might be. Wouldn’t that be fun?
TMax 100. A superior film to Panatomic.
Yes I am sure it is and my post was not in any way a disguised way to say otherwise. It is just that in my case I have used quite a number of b&w films and the prints from those negatives are strewn in several boxes. If I were to tip them all on the floor I feel sure I would have difficulty distinguishing one film from anotherPan-X has a very specific look that made it my favorite B&W film. As I have not shot any B&W since they discontinued it, and as I don't find most of the B&W images I have seen since to be my cup of tea, it is a genuine inquiry.
Ilford FP4 is similar.Which currently available film(s) make you think of Panatomic-X when you see or shoot them? In your opinion, are they similar, or equal to it?
I don't know how to answer this one. I still shoot Panatomic-X
Yes, but could you produce and sell it at a reasonable cost?
Films are not cold and sterile, people are. Panatomic X was a great film, but so is TM100. You could hand a cheap guitar to a gentleman like Segovia, and he would make it sing. Life is about adapting to change. If you know what you're doing the film is irrelevant. But hey! If they made it, I'd still shoot it![]()
Drew, whilst I admire your love for TMax, please understand that some people, myself included, dislike the TMax "look". When TMax was introduced it had a vastly different look than the common films that were then in widespread use. Some people loved it and some didn't. Simple as that.Maybe it's someone's attitude that's cold and sterile. Blaming the film is always a lame excuse, any film. TMax can become all kinds of things because it's so versatile development-wise. It's like saying a particular brand of stove is no good because everything you happen to cook on it tastes bland. You get a lot more mileage using a dash of salt and pepper than bad- mouthing something.
Careful work, and a developer like replenished X-Tol.OK. So how does one get good mid-tones from TMAX while keeping its contrast under control?
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