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Yeah.. Personally I'd have to see what those quirks are.
HARMAN Phoenix 200 is an experimental C41 colour film and the first ever made by HARMAN Photo. As such it has characteristics that make this very different to the more traditional, established C41 colour negatives films. In addition to the risk of occasional coating anomalies, this film does not have masking dyes and limited antihalation incorporated in the base layer. This means that striking halation effects around bright light sources and reflections are possible. In addition to its atypical colour rendering, this film has a distinctly analogue look when shooting certain scenes and colour palettes
We'll have to wait for some samples, but unless spec sheet is intentionally selling this film short, this is not even Orwo NC500 level.
To beging to answer my own question, and quoting the datasheet:
New Harman Phoenix 200 film leaked online - Photo Rumors
Information on the new Harman Phoenix 200 film leaked online: No related posts.photorumors.com
Looks decent to me tbh. Reminds me of Svema DS-4.Oh, well, so much about a decent consumer film...
Scanning in glass holders and printing without two ANR surfaces will be fun, too.
Emulsion side identification
Unlike some negatives HARMAN Phoenix 200 emulsion has a glossy surface. To determine the emulsion side, view the negatives towards a light source, with the edge signing reading correctly the emulsion is facing away.
Agreed, but that's truly not the point. They have to start somewhere, and pouring many millions upon millions of dollars into developing something perfect without releasing intermediate attempts would mean never doing color film at all. I'm planning to buy 10 or so rolls tomorrow just to support them and experiment with. I won't use them for anything important, at least not to start, of course. If it helps Harman progress toward something better so that 10 years from now I can buy great color film from them, I find that well worth it.
In other words, I see the transaction between me and them as something more than the typical I give you money, you give me a product that meets my needs and that's the end of it. It's more like, I give you money, you give me a so-so product, and I hope it helps you do better in the future.
Agreed, but that's truly not the point. They have to start somewhere, and pouring many millions upon millions of dollars into developing something perfect without releasing intermediate attempts would mean never doing color film at all. I'm planning to buy 10 or so rolls tomorrow just to support them and experiment with. I won't use them for anything important, at least not to start, of course. If it helps Harman progress toward something better so that 10 years from now I can buy great color film from them, I find that well worth it.
In other words, I see the transaction between me and them as something more than the typical I give you money, you give me a product that meets my needs and that's the end of it. It's more like, I give you money, you give me a so-so product, and I hope it helps you do better in the future.
For what it's worth, I spoke to a store owner again today, and they didn't sound like they're expecting any trouble at all selling through everything they receive.
Actually, spectral sensitivity looks similar to DS-4 tooLooks decent to me tbh. Reminds me of Svema DS-4.
Yes, the local store I frequent told me they'll have plenty of it (without saying what it is, of course), but to come in tomorrow morning just to be safe if I want some.Do you have a local source?
Yes, the local store I frequent told me they'll have plenty of it (without saying what it is, of course), but to come in tomorrow morning just to be safe if I want some.
Thanks Henning for the insight again,
In the In an instant Eschede factory visit video, there are some figures that they produce many more million packs of instant film now vs years ago (can't cite it now) which impacts positively on the requirement for color substrate.
Well, and Fuji also makes investments in Instax due to that demand.
Actually, spectral sensitivity looks similar to DS-4 too
Curious if anyone has any good quality samples images of DS-4? All I can seem to find is badly expired Lomo type shots.
Neither InovisCoat nor FilmoTec have any confectioning capabilities for 135 film cassettes. So far they outsourced their film confectioning to a Chinese partner, what they also confirmed officially.
The link that Flighter provided has sample pictures of this new film.
Curious if anyone has any good quality samples images of DS-4? All I can seem to find is badly expired Lomo type shots.
M14 seems to have several interchangeable coating heads of various widths - the main unanswered question is if Ilford have innovated to get total layers to 10 or less (doable with a single coating head pass) or not - and if that means they acquired a new coating head for this project.
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