Hello APUG from FILM Ferrania (PART 2)

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Try Japanese!
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Japanese, as a spoken language, is very easy. It's contextual. One can drop words from sentences, even the subject! There are no irregular verbs and, in fact, you don't conjugate verbs — like "I be", "you be", "he/she be", "we be"...

As a written language, it's a nightmare.


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Yep, but the language has no congruence with a western language and is has a thing called "me ue" and "me shita" which is a class distinction that must be used and used properly in formal situations. Also, plurals are really odd especially when used with me ue and me shita.

And how about the use of the forms of "to have" and the continual use of such statements as "it is not unbecoming of one to need to go". Oh, and the lack of a word for "that". A sentence like "the house that I saw" in Japanese becomes "the before seen house". Etc.......

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All y'all are mad. Mad, I say! Calvin & Hobbes was the best comic strip of all time. What's not to love about a 6 year old boy and his real stuffed tiger?!
 

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If we were to consider "easy" as something that seems/sounds/looks familiar, it would be a sad world. I mean, nothing would be easy.

My native language is Portuguese. Still, I find English much easier. Yes, sometimes I get confused thinking about *how* to express something in English, but that's a purely cultural matter. My difficulty is not in constructing my phrases, but how what I say will sound to a native.

Same thing in Japanese: if you say "doo desu ka" (a salutation, like "how are you?") to an older person or someone you don't know, it's considered rude. This has nothing to do with the language itself, but with culture.

Well, there's also the matter of personal preference. Personally, I find it more difficult to learn a language that sounds familiar (like Spanish or Italian) than a completely different language. It's easy to make wrong assumptions about certain words.

For example: when I went to Chile, a waitress was relieved when I ordered a papaya (I had just read it on the menu). She knew I was Brazilian. In Portuguese, we call that fruit "mamão", which sounds close to the way a Spanish speaker would say the word "mamon". But, curiously, "mamon" is a slang for oral sex in Chile... Several Brazilians tried to order "mamon" before and didn't understand why the waitresses blushed.

As much as I like where this thread is going, let's get back to Ferrania film.


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My eldest niece speaks fluent Japanese, but cannot write it well. I joined her last May on a week long trip to Tokyo and Kyoto (an exchange international baccalaureate tour). I grasped just a few elementary greetings and statements, while she had dozens , but I struggled with signs and printed matter in Japanese (but our hosts were fluent in both Japanese and English, and this was a marvellous help).

I am learning basic Icelandic (being one of the Old Germanic languages it has close similarities to english) online preparatory to a trip there next August.
 

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Well, I like both Don Martin and Calvin and Hobbes along with Farside.

However, a language that sounds familiar has "faux amis" as they call it in French. It is hard to get that in your head. Retreat and retirement have reversed meanings in French and English. Ahh well, lets get back to Ferrania!!!!!

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ME Super said:
All y'all are mad. Mad, I say! Calvin & Hobbes was the best comic strip of all time. What's not to love about a 6 year old boy and his real stuffed tiger?!
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And very on topic for this thread:

 

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In the mean time in the Ferrania factory the testing of the new-old-stock equipment goes on:

 

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Add to that, raw stock keeping, corrosive chemicals and chemistry [of Cibachrome] are very bad for the environment when compared with RA4.
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If you release them into the environment.

(Here no photographic bath at all may be released even into the sewage.)
 

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No matter what you do to some of the ingredients of the Cibachrome process, they are harmful. Consider the phenazine derivative used as a catalyst as one example. That, along with the need to use a strong alkali to neutralize the acid in the bleach puts the Cibachrome process in a category all its own. This is not new information by any means.

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My brick of solaris FGPLUS 100 arrived todat from Greece!
Cant wait to shoot my first roll!
 

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flavio81 said:
Monty Python is great, but XKCD is really one of the lamest comic strips i've read. And i'm a software engineer.
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Xkcd has its interesting moments, but it's a... specific kind of humor really. Ferrania itself may have encountered quite a few comic strip worthy anecdotes. It's good that the precision coater doesn't turn dogs rigid, have them speaking a sentence of perfect Akkadian, and then being hurled sideways through the picture window!

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My brick of solaris FGPLUS 100 arrived todat from Greece!
Cant wait to shoot my first roll!
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I didn't get to try Ferrania Solaris. It was a consumer film but I didn't get to see it in stores here and I began to shoot film as the former Ferrania exited the market. Also, I ended up reading some 2007 thread and it was interesting to see prices mentioned and how they have slowly climbed until the current level! So the cheap of then is not the cheap of now.
IIRC Solaris was available in 100, 200, 400 and 800. Wow! It will be interesting to see the reiteration when its time comes after the Chromes. Given that now they will not be limited to being a "consumer film" producer, for sure the films will be better.
 

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Is there any real difference (aside from maybe the possibility of unlabeled rebates) between actual "Ferrania Solaris" and the contemporary private label films made by Film Ferrania?

After getting enthused around some of the posts here, particularly by Nzoomed, and wanting to try some for myself, I've picked up the following:
ca. 2005 Kroger 200 speed film ("Made in Italy")
ca. 2007 Clark 200 speed film ("Made in Italy")
ca. 2009 "Super HD 200" film - known generic Ferrania label.
ca. 2009 "HP 100" film, no boxes, and presumed by seller to be Konica, but in non-annotated cartridges identical in labeling style to the Ferrania cartridges above, and using a letter prefix that matches Imation's film letters.
 
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