...for the average person chemical based photography is just about dead ...
Amateur radio can be almost free as transmitters and receivers can be made from a few valves and other bits and pieces electronics hobbyists have in their spare parts drawers/cupboards...
Not that I disagree, but all those old analog parts are getting harder and harder to find. Soon, you won't be able to get them at all any longer and ....
And this is true. And mainly this is because of what an earlier poster mentioned about high-tech marketing and programmed consumers. Digital photography plays right into it. For the entire century of the 1900's, camera manufacturers could make whatever camera they wanted, with whatever feature they liked. But the camera in the end was only a holder for somebody else's film. The camera manufacturer's didn't have control of the image and they didn't get recurring revenue. So Nikon (for example) sells a multi-hundred dollar camera and it's Kodak's film that the consumer ultimately uses to judge the product. Not to mention that recurring revenue stream that Kodak/Fuji/Ilford enjoys from that camera for as long as the shutter is clicking.
So the camera manufacturers wanted Kodak out of their shorts. Kodachrome is Kodachrome no matter whose camera it's in. But with DIGITAL, the manufacturer can now credibly claim there is some great difference between their camera and the next guy's due to the wonderful, special sensor only they have.
So people bought digital cameras. But, after the newness wears off they stop using that camera. Now Nikon has to come up with something new to create interest again, so they add mega-pixels and features. Now instead of the 10 MP camera, you've got to have the 18 MP camera. Does if make a difference? Not really, but like horsepower or watts or whatever, more is more so it's better. You can create a great photo with a Hasselblad, a digital P&S or an Instamatic. The photographer makes the photograph what it is, not the camera.
But how is Nikon and Canon and Pentax and so on really doing financially today? Probably not much better than they ever were and maybe not even as good, IDK. But I know this: they found out the same thing Kodak learned a hundred years ago. People use the camera a whole lot while it is new and then they lose interest. Kodak solved the problem by coming out with a new format every so often. The camera became new again because it was easier to load or it fit in your purse and Kodak sold more film with Fuji riding the wave. This means huge R&D budgets to keep developing the next great thing. Kodak had those budgets for years, but that was OK because the payoff was huge. Now the payoff isn't so huge but it's still there and that will keep someone in the business for a long time. But Nikon and Canon have to keep that R&D going and it's got to have to payoff in the end.
They they came out with cameras in iPhones and Nikon takes it in the teeth. They never figured on that! It isn't just Kodak in their shorts anymore, now you can add Apple and Motorola and whoever else. There's a whole lot more companies that make electronics than ever made that film.
And now guess what happens? Somebody came out with a new kind of analog camera and it's something new and people like it and use it - which is good for us.
My end analysis? If Nikon and Canon made film, film would still be king.
... valves (tubes) like EL34, EL84, 6V6 and 6L6 are still being made...
i don't think film would be king, if canon and nikon made film. we'd probably be in the same leaky boat we are in today,
Steve Smith said:Not that I disagree, but all those old analog parts are getting harder and harder to find. Soon, you won't be able to get them at all any longer and ....
I have a shed full of them!
Actually, valves (tubes) like EL34, EL84, 6V6 and 6L6 are still being made for guitar amplifiers and will readily work in a single valve CW transmitter.
Steve.
I have a shed full of them!
Actually, valves (tubes) like EL34, EL84, 6V6 and 6L6 are still being made for guitar amplifiers and will readily work in a single valve CW transmitter.
Steve.
stavrosk said:A digital file that cannot be directly seen by man will never replace a pice of film which you can always see. It is more tangible and it never stops existing. There is no way that the file cannot be played anymore, there is no need to transfer them to your new hard drive or make them updated for the new technologies to come. With film you can always scan it when you need it.
And on the Voyager ships are gold records, but no MP3s.
Or turntables. I never understood that...
Ken
Or turntables. I never understood that...
Ken
maybe any aliens it runs into will have figured out the technology behind the physical existence of a soundwave recorded onto a rotating medium?
in reply to OP: i thought this forum board stated this is not a place for rumors or speculation?
Perspective:
Also in 5x7....Kodak just released two new films, Porta 160 and Porta 400. These films aren't just available in 35 and 120, the two most popular formats, but also in 4x5 and 8x10...
They are not only going to India in the next months. Some days ago they have opened a new shop in Johannesburg, South Africa.
Next they will go to the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Suisse, Turkey, Mexico, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines.
And will extend their operations by openning new shops in USA, England, Germany, France, China.
Lomo it not a fad. This movement is 20 years old. And still rapidly growing.
Because they do an very effective marketing, and do a great job in encouraging people to use film.
Not like lots of apuggers here, which definitely discourage new users to use film by all their permanent doom and gloom and sky is falling praying.
Do you want to join a club which is permanently debating it's own closure? Of course not!
You will go on and join a club with a positive outlook.
That is what Lomo do: Their slogan is "the future is analogue". They have a positive outlook, that is attractive for young people.
Lomo know very well that economics is 50% psychology. If people believe in the future of a system, they will buy.
Somewhere, if I still have it, in an old ARRL handbook I have an article about making your own triodes. If I recall correctly you use mercury to scavenge the air in the sealed envelope.
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