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I imagine using a watch-based spot meter would lead to some interesting gestures/poses.

Perhaps John Travolta would advertise for it (tough to get the exact screen grab I wanted)
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These are made in USA: https://www.jnshapirowatches.com

You're gonna need to find a whole lotta cash in the sofa cushions.
No exposure determining function....

And to be clear, the made in USA movements are mechanical, not quartz.

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It is more about jewelry that about a time piece. Now that the use of digital circuitry can produce a very accurate watch, the need for a Swiss movement is gone and Swiss watches now are about being a piece of jewelry that tells time.
 
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It is more about jewelry that about a time piece. Now that the use of digital circuitry can produce a very accurate watch, the need for a Swiss movement is gone and Swiss watches now are about being a piece of jewelry that tells time.
My local watch shop where I get batteries replaced has told me that the 40-year-old Seiko I have will probably outlast my (few) expensive Swiss watches.
 

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It is more about jewelry that about a time piece. Now that the use of digital circuitry can produce a very accurate watch, the need for a Swiss movement is gone and Swiss watches now are about being a piece of jewelry that tells time.


You seem to be making an argument for digital photography and highly accurate quartz controlled shutters over analog, but I assume that’s unintended. Is my Hasselblad inaccurate jewelry that makes pictures? Maybe so.

Watches are jewelry, and art, and passion for mechanical perfection, yes. But the study of tribology hasn’t disappeared with the advent of digital watches. People haven’t stopped thinking about it just because cell phones were invented.

Quartz watches have been more accurate than mechanical watches since 1970. My son wears a Casio that radio-syncs at midnight every night so there is no real need for his watch to be accurate because it’s going to reset itself every night anyway. It’s a dumb watch that gets smart once a day and that’s good enough for most folks.

But still there is the quest for accurate timekeeping, and thermocompensated quartz watches are being refined to frankly amazing levels of accuracy even today. Because it’s cool. Mechanical watches are getting better every year too, because there is a passion for it and that’s reason enough for people to purchase and enjoy them.

Mechanical horology and mechanical cameras have a lot in common actually.
 
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Well it looks neat, but the technical specifications don't sort of match the scuba diving situation as shown in the pictures; it only has a 10 Bar rating, which is good for skin diving and having a swim, a shower; that kind of stuff.

The movement, which is the heart of the watch, is manufactured by Seiko, which is perfectly fine, but it's not made in the USA.

I get that the bezel markings and movements of said bezel work for the sunny 16, but for anything over f/16 you appear to be guestimating. As I mostly these days use f/22 or smaller, that is a no for me!! :smile:

Actually I wouldn't purchase one, but I cannot see any problems. An old friend who was a pilot in another life, has a Rolex Navigator (I think that's what it is called) it cost him an arm and a leg about 60 years ago and is totally obsolete for it's intended purpose, but it's pretty cool when he can use his watch to work out navigation and times; or something like that.
 

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Well it looks neat, but the technical specifications don't sort of match the scuba diving situation as shown in the pictures; it only has a 10 Bar rating, which is good for skin diving and having a swim, a shower; that kind of stuff.

The movement, which is the heart of the watch, is manufactured by Seiko, which is perfectly fine, but it's not made in the USA.

I get that the bezel markings and movements of said bezel work for the sunny 16, but for anything over f/16 you appear to be guestimating. As I mostly these days use f/22 or smaller, that is a no for me!! :smile:

Actually I wouldn't purchase one, but I cannot see any problems. An old friend who was a pilot in another life, has a Rolex Navigator (I think that's what it is called) it cost him an arm and a leg about 60 years ago and is totally obsolete for it's intended purpose, but it's pretty cool when he can use his watch to work out navigation and times; or something like that.

A British Arirways Captain I knew had a Swatch "Mickey Mouse watch...with Mickey on the dial...he always checked it with our Flight Briefing Greenwich Observatory checked Chronometer and blow me his watch it was always pretty accurate! He was quite proud of it🤭
 

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Well it looks neat, but the technical specifications don't sort of match the scuba diving situation as shown in the pictures; it only has a 10 Bar rating, which is good for skin diving and having a swim, a shower; that kind of stuff.

The movement, which is the heart of the watch, is manufactured by Seiko, which is perfectly fine, but it's not made in the USA.

I get that the bezel markings and movements of said bezel work for the sunny 16, but for anything over f/16 you appear to be guestimating. As I mostly these days use f/22 or smaller, that is a no for me!! :smile:

Actually I wouldn't purchase one, but I cannot see any problems. An old friend who was a pilot in another life, has a Rolex Navigator (I think that's what it is called) it cost him an arm and a leg about 60 years ago and is totally obsolete for it's intended purpose, but it's pretty cool when he can use his watch to work out navigation and times; or something like that.

It doesn't matter which aperture you use. But you can do all that without the watch. What the watch does isn't all that interesting. What it does is that if you know the scene brightness is either LV 15 or LV 12 it helps you choose the combination of shutter speed/aperture and ISO. But you can do that in your head.
 

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You seem to be making an argument for digital photography and highly accurate quartz controlled shutters over analog, but I assume that’s unintended.

I made not such statement.
 

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A British Arirways Captain I knew had a Swatch "Mickey Mouse watch...with Mickey on the dial...he always checked it with our Flight Briefing Greenwich Observatory checked Chronometer and blow me his watch it was always pretty accurate! He was quite proud of it🤭

I wear a $49.95 Mickey Mouse watch.
 
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I only occasionally wear a watch. I just don't find the need for one any more even though I own several. Including a Goofy watch that runs backward.
 

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I only occasionally wear a watch. I just don't find the need for one any more even though I own several. Including a Goofy watch that runs backward.

I havent worn a watch .since I retired early in 1986.... Sun come up..sun go down....🤣
 

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I made not such statement.
I was reading more than you intended and made the connection below, which has some relevance to mechanical watches and other mechanical products like cameras becoming unpopular despite their usefulness. You could substitute many products in the bold text…

“It is more about jewelry than about a camera. Now that the use of digital circuitry can produce a very accurate exposure, the need for a Swedish camera is gone and Swedish cameras now are about being a piece of jewelry that makes pictures”
 

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I was reading more than you intended and made the connection below, which has some relevance to mechanical watches and other mechanical products like cameras becoming unpopular despite their usefulness. You could substitute many products in the bold text…

“It is more about jewelry than about a camera. Now that the use of digital circuitry can produce a very accurate exposure, the need for a Swedish camera is gone and Swedish cameras now are about being a piece of jewelry that makes pictures”

I bought a Nikon 7ZII and took it to Antarctica so that I did not have to change films every 12 or 36 exposures, but that does not mean that I abandoned film. I got a tool for a particular situation. That is all.
 

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I am surprised as I see now many of the Seiko and Citizen are not made in Japan any more.

If I was looking for a Seiko watch I would expect it to be made in Japan. Same is true with a Nikon high end camera. So I guess I may be out of luck. 😟
 

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If I was looking for a Seiko watch I would expect it to be made in Japan. Same is true with a Nikon high end camera. So I guess I may be out of luck. 😟

Some Seiko watches are still made in Japan but as for Nikon? Nope there is no Nikon made in Japan any more currently except the D6 if you count that.
 
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