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after several trials and a bit of frustration, 'm happy to report that I successfully developed my first 35mm film in the Labbox, loaded and processed the film in daylight; the result is excellent.the film is evenly processed. I learned that all one needs to do is follow the precisely and it works just fine. Now on to 120 film...
 

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After reading the article, it seems to me, a 'D' cell battery powered bbq spit motor in a stand, at the correct hight, with good connection to the tank knob would take over the agitation task, easily.

These funnels should include one that fits well and a bottom board for motor and tank should hold both together to prevent slipping apart misadventures.

Cheers and Godspeed to all,
Eli

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Agfa used to make a similar tank: https://emulsive.org/articles/revie...ht-film-processing-tank-the-agfa-rondinax-35u I think Leica sold a rebranded version. It's been out of production for a long time.
 

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Very cool.
 
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Actually that was one of my mistakes; the crank seems more convenient but the knob more securely feeds the film into the real properly. The knob the way to go for feeding in the film into the reel; the crank is more convenient for agitation.
 

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Ralph, I really admire your determination. I can't help wondering if the Paterson System isn't still viable for you in a darkroom? If you could first clamp both sides of the reel in a vertical plane you could lift the film end into the ball-bearing dogs. Then you'd need to somehow clamp just one half of the spiral while you work the other half - the dogs will draw the film in without the use of the other hand. You need another pair of hands to help to construct a simple jig, but I do feel it could be made to work.
 

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Jobo stopped production of the 2400 daylight tank a number of years back. The LabBox offers more and being closer in design to a Rodinax, easier to use.

Is the LabBox/Rondinax easier to use than the Jobo daylight-loading tank?
This Jobo tank in any case offers inversion processing in the same way as its dark-loading counterparts. Thus established processing-procedures and -times can be taken over one to one.
 
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The Labbox works well for me for 35mm film. I will also try to make it work for 120 but, that seems to be a lot trickier than 35 mm. 4 x 5 sheet films I will continue to develop trays. Nothing is going to keep me another joke room. Nothing beats the smell of fixer in the morning.
 

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It's been mentioned a lot, but the LB really works well if attention is given to the manual of operations.

It's a practical design imo that delivers on it's promises.
 

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A small comment on following the manual directions. The original manual which issued with the Kickstarter delivered LB units was a total disaster - language unclear, diagrams unclear and not correctly associated with related text. However, I had occasion to review the current version of the manual available on line. It is clear that the manual was completely rewritten and all new diagrams replaced.. It is now quite clear and accurate. I think what happened was (1) the original was written in Italian, then translated to English by someone who was less than competent, and (2) the original was written well before they delivered the first units, and there were a number of serious changes to the reels, their assembly assembly, and operation after the manual was written.
 

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This makes me think of one bit in Robert Pirsig's book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" where the narrator - a technical writer by trade - talks about the process that he would often go through to familiarize himself with a product before writing a manual for it.
In essence, the people that hired him often would pull the least valuable employee from what he was doing to help the writer do the manual
 

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When writing instructions I tried to imagine explaining things to my Mother where it was imperative that she understand it.

So teaming a tech writer with some wet behind the ears engineer isn't all that bad of a strategy.
 
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Ralph is physically limited in loading aspiral(no left hand). The Lab Box worked out great for me in 135. Have yet to try it for 120.
 

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The issue I had with mine was getting the reels on correctly. The molded in directional arrows are really difficult to see. Once I got that straighten out I had no problem processing 35mm film. I have separate 120 reels and sort of gave up on that. I'm still not sure if I have the 120 reels on correctly.
 
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