Monobath for Polaroid instance film with dried out chemicals?

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Is there a way to use dried out Polaroid 664 and 667 film?

Is it possible any kind of monobath, works for this purpose?

Just wonder because I just find some Polaroid film with completely dried out chemicals.

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Try it out, and if it's got enough usable chemical to cover part of the sheet, maybe you can use it for test exposures, but otherwise, no, the chemistry needs to spread between the negative side and the positive receiving sheet for the image to transfer, and figuring out the chemistry and a way to apply it other than the way it was made isn't worth it unless maybe you have hundreds of boxes of this stuff.

I'd imagine some process like making the exposure, removing the sheet from the pack in the dark without messing anything else up or breaking the existing pod. Spreading the neg side with the fairly caustic monobath gel, mating it with the receiving sheet, and then rolling it evenly with a rubber brayer, kind of like a Polaroid transfer.
 
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Thanks for the answers and especially the technical details David.

I am considering about taking dried pot out and add some sort of neutral solution (what this could be?) to soften the pot chemicals. I can use softened gel to spread between the negative/positive sheets and roll over it manually.

I wonder what could be the possible chemical ingredients / formulas for the caustic monobath gel.

Any guess?
 
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(From MSDS) Polaroid film 107c 803 667 667B Viva(B&W) 3000 664 553 554 87 663 53 611 811 804 64 54 3200 72 572 672 MPX Polapan Pro 100 Polapan Pro 800 Polapan 400 Sepia

Developer Fluid contained in pod of film types, Ingredients of chemical mixture

Potassium Hydroxide 7-13%
Uracil 3-7%
Triethanolamine 0.1-1%
DMEHA; DI (Methoxyethyl) Hydroxylamine 1-5%
Zinc Acetate Dihydrate 0.1-1% (only in 611 811)
Zinc Oxide 0.1-1% (only in 611 811)

This doesn't mean I know anything about those chemicals.
 
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(From MSDS) DEVELOPER FLUID CONTAINED IN POD OF FILM TYPES
600, 708, 778, 779, 339, 600++, 309, 909, 600+, SPECTRA,
IMAGE, 6000, 7000, 330, 990, CAPTIVA 95, VISION 95,
JOYCAM 95, POCKET FILM, I-ZONE, EXTREME GLOSS
FILM: ALTER IMAGE, MATTE,: MAT-T-E

POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE 5-10%
TITANIUM DIOXIDE 30-60%
P-TOLUENESULFINIC ACID, 0.10-1%
SODIUM SALT-HYDRATE
2-ETHYLIMIDAZOLE 1-5%
HYPOXANTHINE 0.50-1.50%
SNP22E: SNP22K 1-3%
6-METHYLURACIL 0.10-1%
WATER 40-70%
CARBOPOL ISX 1893 RESIN: 1-5%
CARBOPOL ISX 1993 RESIN
ETHYL DIOXANE - .ALPHA.- 0.10-0.50%
PIC BROMIDE
TRANEXAMIC ACID 0.10-0.50%
 
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I cannot find Fuji FP-100B and FP-100C MSDS sheets.
 
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