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Allow me, dear Moose22, to 'participate' in your experimenting, and I do hope not to offend you.

What I see is what is to be seen in many photographs of buildings made with a wide angle lens, or an any other focal, and without vertical perspective control.

You are seeing EXACTLY what I am seeing. I took three shots here, and all three were tilted to the right like this. I actually left the image full frame to remind myself that I did not crop and rotate when I scanned it.

This was hand held and a location I have photographed before. I was trying something new -- in this case using the tree to balance the composition -- and did not pay attention to the vertical lines on the building.

And you do not offend. I always want to learn, and I respect your work and knowledge. Always tell me what you think!

I should try a shot from there with my GX680. See if I can keep the image plane parallel an use the rise to get better framing.
 

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Near the entrance at the papal palace, Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

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Hasselblad 500CM + Distagon 60mm on Tri-X 400 processed in Pyrocat-HD
 

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Mamiya C330, 80mm f/2.8, Ilford FP4+, Rodinal 1+25:
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Just a snapshot while walking around Vatican City. You reminded me of it Phillipe-Georges.

I love your peeks through portals. I should start looking for opportunities to explore that sort of composition.
 

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Just a snapshot while walking around Vatican City. You reminded me of it Phillipe-Georges.

I love your peeks through portals. I should start looking for opportunities to explore that sort of composition.

Dear Moose22, what you call "peeks" isn't really my intention, it's more a 'research' for the light falling in, look at the street cobbles how they become 'alive'.
Looking thru an opening is looking into the light. I am more interested in what the light does with the object than the object as such
(although the object is most of the time as interesting as the light is (sic))...

Anyway, what we see (and photograph) is the thing rendered by the reflexion of the light falling (striking) on it, not really the 'thing'.
 

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Dear Moose22, what you call "peeks" isn't really my intention, it's more a 'research' for the light falling in, look at the street cobbles how they become 'alive'.
Looking thru an opening is looking into the light. I am more interested in what the light does with the object than the object as such
(although the object is most of the time as interesting as the light is (sic))...

Anyway, what we see (and photograph) is the thing rendered by the reflexion of the light falling (striking) on it, not really the 'thing'
Oh, I know that. It's that light on the cobbles that I am talking about exploring. Your interiors lit though doors or windows seem to have just enough detail that I find myself looking at the light reflecting off the stone wall, or the floors.

This is all much more interesting to me than how I might have done it when I was shooting digital, where everything would be exposed. In your photos I follow the light with my eyes, I also seem to look around the image more than once, looking at the details and shadows, like on the most recent post how the arch is lit but the walls above and below are black.

As for the light, not the thing it's reflecting off of, I've had that discussion with people before. I apologize since this is not architecture, but as an example one of my favorites is really just about light reflecting off rocks:

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When everyone is on the blufftops, taking sunset photos by pointing their cameras at the sun, I'll be facing the other way looking at reflections and shadows.

Your basilica pictures with the light and shadow off of the columns make me look again and again as well. Shadows and light reflections on the floor, the edges of columns lit. This use of specular light very much interests me right now.
 

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Hey, Jordan! Great photos!

Do you recall why the flags are half-mast on the first photo? According to dictionary.com (and from what I knew) it's meant as "a sign of mourning or distress".
 

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Just a snapshot while walking around Vatican City. You reminded me of it Phillipe-Georges.

There's so much really good stuff on this photo, even though the keystone-effect would offend some architectural photographers.

In your defense (not that you need it), it would be impossible to get that blue sky and clouds from a point where the keystone-effect wouldn't happen. Perspective correction would make the picture look flat, because of the heavy inclination.

I also love the way the arch in the middle looks warm, in contrast with the sky, and also with the façade closer to the point of view. It calls the attention of the viewer to the decorations under the arch and the statue on the left. Superb.

For a "snapshot", you really got some very interesting compositional elements in there.
 

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Just a snapshot while walking around Vatican City. You reminded me of it Phillipe-Georges.

Ha the Vatican, this reminds me a hell (yes) of three days over there!
I was commissioned a book on the "Secret Archives", these aren't secret at all, for which I only got three days to shoot: http://www.photoeil.be/books/the-vatican-secret-archives.html (I haven't made the reproductions, these were provided by the Vatican).
I made days of about 12 to 14 hours of intense shooting, luckily this time I could do it digitally, and 'slept' in the hostel for the pelgrims and had hardly time to eat.
But I enjoyed the results, and the publisher was very pleased and payed me an alms...

"Secret" is a long standing wrong interpretation of "dal segretario" which means "the secretary ['s archives]", so it should be "The Vatican's Secretary's Archives", but Dan Brown...
 

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Hey, Jordan! Great photos!

Do you recall why the flags are half-mast on the first photo? According to dictionary.com (and from what I knew) it's meant as "a sign of mourning or distress".

It's in response to the Texas school shooting.
 

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There's so much really good stuff on this photo, even though the keystone-effect would offend some architectural photographers.

In your defense (not that you need it), it would be impossible to get that blue sky and clouds from a point where the keystone-effect wouldn't happen. Perspective correction would make the picture look flat, because of the heavy inclination.

I also love the way the arch in the middle looks warm, in contrast with the sky, and also with the façade closer to the point of view. It calls the attention of the viewer to the decorations under the arch and the statue on the left. Superb.

For a "snapshot", you really got some very interesting compositional elements in there.

It was also a super-zoom lens that has distortion by nature. This image is without any photoshopping, I just uploaded a bunch when I emptied the SD card to share with friends back home. I'm sure if I'd shot wide and done some digital trickery I could make it much better.

I was in Italy for work, got sent to Rome the day before and had a morning off. So there I was. I will take imperfect pictures over no pictures any day of the week.

And the Vatican is fantastic for architecture. I wish I'd had time to plan and could have spent every morning that week taking photographs. There's so much there that's so interesting to see.

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Papal Palace, Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

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Hasselblad SWC on Tri-X @ 1000ASA in E-76 1+1 or X-Tol 1+1 (Iforgot to write it on the negative sleeve, as I usually do, and as I recall, it was in a period when I ran out of some raw chemicals to make E-76)...
 

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I will take imperfect pictures over no pictures any day of the week.

We must do the best we can, but sometimes good enough is enough.

I have done pespecive correction and small rotational correction on the enlarger. It’s a lot of fun, in fact.
 

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took this while walking the castle garden in my city, i like how it turned out, but in color I think it would've been a little bit better since it was very sunny that day. HP5 Pentax p30T 50mm f1.4 HC-110 can't say for sure anymore which dilution I used.

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The gate of the papal palace, Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

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Hasselblad SWC on Tri-X 400 processed in Pyrocat-HD

Your SWC photographs are showcases for examples of the rectilinear correctness of the 38mm Biogon lens. [Nice straight verticals and horizontals that are parallel with the print frame.]
 

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Watermill of the now vanished abby, Maroilles, dept. du Nord, Hauts-de-France, France

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Hasselblad SWC + Orange filter (early spring noon sunlight), on Tri-X @ 400ASA processed in X-Tol 1+1.
(It always astonishes me how the Biogon lacks deformation, that's why I am 'hooked' on that camera, among other reasons.)
 
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