I often use BTZS tubes, and a prewash is a welcome step to eliminate AH layer on some films like TMY-2.
Does the anti halation dye have any affect on the developing process apart from adding colour to the developer, stop and fix? I don't know, but it would be reasonable to think that it doesn't do anything significant or film manufacturers would not use it.
Does the anti halation dye have any affect on the developing process apart from adding colour to the developer, stop and fix? I don't know, but it would be reasonable to think that it doesn't do anything significant or film manufacturers would not use it.
None that I can see. The reason why I pre-wash TMY-2 before sticking it in the tube is because of the blue AH layer, that does not come out so easily.
Is that a function of tube processsing versus other processing methods?
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The companies who make film must have scientifically tested if pre soaking film has any advantages for both roll film and sheet film.
Did Kodak recommend pre wash when using replenished Xtol?
Ilford recommend that no pre soak is necessary for their films. I have read on this forum, some people like to pre soak their film, why?
I pre-wash to preserve my Replenished Xtol developer from accumulating antihalation dye, spectral sensitising dye. acutance enhancing, dye, and possibly speed trimming dye. A replenished developer loaded with dye becomes a murky mess of unknown (unknowable?) composition that prompts discard. By keeping dyes out of my Xtol it stays clear-ish and can do many many films without an alarming change of appearance.
Does the anti halation dye have any affect on the developing process apart from adding colour to the developer, stop and fix? I don't know, but it would be reasonable to think that it doesn't do anything significant or film manufacturers would not use it.
Replenishing developer with dip and dunk processing? Do the dyes degrade the developer or do they just look murky ?
Most of the Kodak advice respecting replenishment is clearly oriented toward large tank dip-and-dunk or continuous roller processing lines, so it would be surprising to see language that relates to a pre-soak.
What is the difference, wet or dry? A dry emulsion brings in water and the chemicals in it, and the developing chemicals initially brought in are quickly exhausted. The rest of the development is done by developing agents slowly entering or having contact with, the emulsion. Starting with a wetted emulsion is no different except for that brief instant when the dry gets wet. The difference in the amt of development between wet and dry is not significant.... I can't get my head around pouring a very diluted developer onto an emulsion already swelled and soaked in water.
Without intent to be rude, but this is both a well-discussed and contraversial topic where discussions rarely end well. Have you tried the search facility with the terms "presoak" and "pre-soak"? Either or both will yeield the prior discussions that will help you with your question of "why". Another easy option would be to peruse Ansel Adam's The Negative, where the topic is well discussed including why he advocated pre-soak of emulsions back in the good old days.
In this era, I use Ilford B&W film and their recommended processing practices. The simple answer from my experience is that pre-soak simply doesn't add value. Others claim that it might increase the even-ness that the chemistry is absorbed by the film and others claim that some films benefit from having the anti-halation layer washed off by such a process.
If you have read forum posts about pre-soaking, I'm sure that you have seen this information already, though.
What is the difference, wet or dry? A dry emulsion brings in water and the chemicals in it, and the developing chemicals initially brought in are quickly exhausted. The rest of the development is done by developing agents slowly entering or having contact with, the emulsion. Starting with a wetted emulsion is no different except for that brief instant when the dry gets wet. The difference in the amt of development between wet and dry is not significant.
Thank you for the explanation.
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