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Niranjan, I love the Sumac’s tones — beautiful!
Nice! Are those flowers pretty small? There are lots of different kinds of milkweed....

Thanks!

Ned, yeah they are pretty small - those fully grown buds are probably no more than around 1 cm. if I can visualize from my memory. These are from the area I grew up, a kind of semi arid part of India. They grow all over the place. True, they come in all kinds of shapes and sizes.

The picture was taken with a small point and shoot digital camera some years ago.

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Milkweed Wild Flowers.

Stunningly beautiful. For this image, I prefer the original, although I must say the sumac toning has yielded a nice tone as well. Is this the sumac used for culinary purposes as a seasoning? I have plenty of that. Or is it the ornamental Rhus species? I know where to look for those as well.
 
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Jeesh, I’m blushing! Thanks for the kind words.
 
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Thanks a bunch. I too am kind of torn between the two.

I am not sure about what species, but this is an extract of the bark of the Sumac tree, primarily used as a mordant for dyeing textiles. It is one of the so-called "clear tannins" which supposedly impart little or no color to the fabric itself, so I figured it might be a good candidate for cyanotype toning. It does indeed barely darkens the paper itself. There is some discoloration in the border region of the print above but that is mostly related to a hint of blue stain remaining. Also, once the paper is coated with FAC alone even without ferricyanide and any exposure, I found it is hard to remove completely from the paper and hide it from the toner. Iron itself is a mordant for cotton so I suspect some of it stays in. I have tried various clearing processes (citric acid, EDTA, etc) with some success but never complete. That part needs some more work.

Very nice Niranjan. Is that the watercolor paper? I’ve had good luck with Canson XL Bristol.

Thanks. Yes, it is the 300 gsm watercolor paper. I haven't tried the Bristol paper yet.


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I'll have to give that a try. I use the Smooth Bristol all the time. Best cheap paper that I've tried. Doesn't even need acidifying. I get the 14x17 since that is the size of my contact printer but I almost always cut it down.

How much texture is on the watercolor paper? It doesn't look like much in your examples.
 
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This one is also about as cheap. There is tooth on the paper which will be evident if you click on the image and enlarge. The image itself on the print is 5"x5", by the way. The side I print is the smoother than the other side which has considerably more roughness. I don't pre-treat it also except for leaving it in my salt box at least overnight to keep the humidity level consistent. I also add tween to my formulation by pre-mixing it in the K ferri solution. Otherwise I believe it has a surface that is a little bit too hard for good absorption.

Nice new print above, by the way. I think these are the kind of subjects that the blue suits well.

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I think these are the kind of subjects that the blue suits well.

I just splurged on a tube of Charbonnel “Prussian Blue” ink, which is very close to cyanotype’s blue. I mixed a bit in with the black and it made a nice coldtoned print.
 

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After a deep dive into local landscapes, I am circling back to nudes. I am still weeks away from being equipped to turn out gravure plates with the ease of digital negatives, so I am printing them for now as kallitypes. I am not sure how or where (or whether) to share them. IG is not hospitable to uncensored images and I won’t alter the image for posting. And while I could post them here, I appreciate that many Photrio members would prefer that I not. Thoughts?
 

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No objection from me with respect to posting tasteful nudes..
The nudes you have posted in the past have never been of concern.
If you are concerned, you could limit the posting to in this or related threads.
 

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Patrick - beautiful work, I have never tried Stonehenge... I have had some excellent results with Canson Bristol XL recycled- very deep blue blacks in the shadows. Canson always confuses me with all the types of papers they make - but I agree they are very economical.



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Dave, don’t bother with Stonehenge. Without acidifying it the contrast is too much.

Nice print. Good tones. That is about what I get with Canson. Acidification does nothing to it either but my normal mix has added acid.
 

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Still finding my way with photogravures. I circulated copies of this gravure for the alt process print exchange. My blacks could be blacker and my tones are not as continuous as I imagine they should be. But I'm still a work in progress.

 
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The Southeast Center for Photography in Greenville SC is including one of my platinum kallitypes in its June 2024 show, The Nude. The show opens with a reception June 7 from 6 to 8pm — I plan to attend, so stop by if you happen to be near.

 
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Sanders - another great print. I was not familiar with this organization and too a look at their website. Very impressed with the shows they put on and the wide range of photographers represented, as well as the openness of their process in producing shows.

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Another nice pair, @ced. If I have to choose though, I like the brown one better. Are these coat and expose x times and develop once like Grier does with his Printmaker's Friend?

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Thanks, no these got coat expose then develop for each layer.
 
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Not quite a print yet, and always debatable whether it's hand "coated" as such, but still:


My carbon workflow is really starting to come together (although I'll probably jinx it if I say it like this...) So many little things I've worked out over the past year or so when I switched to DAS replacing dichromate as a sensitizer. I've tested variants of literally every single step and aspect of the process to get where I want to be, and it seems I'm getting very close indeed now.

The image above is a dual transfer after its first transfer (i.e. the warm water development step), so it's on a transparent temporary support; the original Yupo tissue support is underneath to be able to see the image well. The image tone looks much much warmer than the final print will turn out, although seeing it like this, I might give it a go with a warm black pigment as well. The pigment in this one is Kremer XSL black, a very user-friendly dry/powder pigment that disperses itself upon contact with water - neat! Once this gelatin relief is dry, I'll clear it of the sensitizer strain and transfer to gelatin-sized Schut Laurier paper, soak it again and then dry flat by taping it to a mirror.

The print is made from an 8x10" Fomapan 200 negative that I treated to a couple of rounds of chromium intensifier to get the density scale to around 2.5logD or thereabouts. I ended up pre-flashing this tissue and then exposing a bit briefly through the negative to get the delicate tones in the petals to render as I had envisioned them. This is the second try from this negative; the first one is much bolder and harsher. I think this will turn out more to my liking.

This is actually one out of four transfers I did today; the fact that I'm gearing up suggests that things really are starting to work out.
 
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That looks like one heckuva print. I am glad your DAS process is coming through. Please do share final dried print.

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P.S. I think as long as you poured the tissue yourself and not used UltraStable, that should qualify as hand coated - only difference being that the coating was separately made and processed before transferring to the final support. Same goes for photogravure too.
 
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