I could use a cheaper paper for work prints, but I'd have to spend time figuring out how to map a print made on one paper to the other. At one point I made work prints on the less expensive 8x10 MG Fiber paper and then made the final print on 11x14, but I found it easier to simply make tests on small bits of the 11x14 paper before committing to a full 11x14 print. I don't really know which way has the best trade off of nuisance vs economy.
The price of the best multigrade gelatin-silver photographic papers has always been hurtful to me so about 30 years ago I made a brutal and liberating decision.
The only paper size I would buy and use was 8"X10". Rectangular pictures would go out at 16.3cm X 21.5cm ( or the other way round if they were portrait orientation).
Square pictures would go out at 16.3cm X16.3cm. Contact prints off 8x10 would be 19.3cm X 24.7cm (ok, 24.7cm X 19.3 cm for portrait).
I purchased a box of 50 11"x14" (glossy) sheets in January from B&H for $145.95. I just checked the price and the same box is $183.99!
Silver has gone up.
Silver has gone up.
So when silver comes down Ilford paper prices will fall?
The cost of silver is just one factor. All lot of things go into making printing paper, including labor, facilities overhead, and distribution cost too. Given the current unpredictability of things, I can't say anything optimistic, unless dealers are simply going to use a particularly popular item as a "loss leader", and sell it at or below their own price. But that raises the hackles of other dealers and might get them in trouble with Ilford too.
But will there be a tipping point, a doomsday scenario, when large film and paper just becomes so unaffordable to most that the diminishing levels of sales can no longer support the industry itself? That's what worries me, with all the uncertainty these days over reckless arbitrary tariffs and so forth; sometimes that can be the straw which breaks the camel's back.
Back in the 70's or so there was the attempt of just two people, namely the Hunt brothers, to totally monopolize the silver commodity market, which temporarily drove many photographers away from printing completely. The paper just got too expensive. These cycles come and go; but there are less manufacturers now of what we need, and it would be dire to see any of them fail.
It's getting even worse with building materials. Everyone demands cheaper housing; but everything at play tells us that is simply not going to be the case. We have our own "sheet goods" inflation issues : matboard, acrylic glazing etc. The price hike of that is jus as bad as printing paper. Am I going to end up contact printing, when I can no longer afford enlarging. I hope not, although contact prints can be beautiful in their own right.
What do you think?
I purchased a box of 50 11"x14" (glossy) sheets in January from B&H for $145.95. I just checked the price and the same box is $183.99! That's a shockingly big increase in such a short period of time. I don't know what could account for such an increase but these prices are not sustainable, IMHO. I like the paper and would love to continue supporting Ilford, but at nearly $4/sheet I'm going to have to look for an alternative.
Greg - certain raw materials tend to get channeled into their respective commodities markets, which are easily gamed to gain certain people an advantage. But there are also energy and transportation and distribution issues at every level. It's not just museum board trying to find enough linen, but the paper pulp chain which now sees its own significant price rise, not only in photographic paper, but even book paper. I've had friends who had to stop publishing their history books, for example, due to the price of appropriate book paper nearly doubling the past few years. That's materials cost, and not like some professor demanding students use his own textbook, which cost six bucks to print, but has a selling price at the student bookstore of $85 - that's gaming instead.
I still have a few full 25-packs of full 32X48 inch 4-ply Rising museum board, some of which I'll cut down for sake of 20X24 inch prints. I bought all of that back when I had a wholesale account with a big picture framing distributor, about a hundred sheets at a time, which came out about 4 dollars a full sheet back then! I still have a quantity of Alphamat too.
For convenience I buy multiple 15-packs of 22X28 of what is apparently also Rising 4-py, from Archival Methods, enough at the time to give me a decent quantity rate and free shipping, around $700 to $1000 at a time. But for the quantity I get, the price is astronomical per sheet compared to former decades. I cut it down to 22X26, or will simply have them do that themselves next time. I have about half of last year's order left on hand for my next drymounting marathon late in this year. I'm not complaining; I appreciate their quality and service. Poor matboard is really headache, and they sell the good stuff, and it comes properly squared. But reality is what it is, and one can only coast so far on a finite budget.
Wow, I paid the lower price for two boxes less than a month ago. I was glad to see that the 250 sheet box of 8x10, though expensive enough, is still the same price.
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