Adox CMS 20 II Availability in US

[mtlc]

Hello,

I've been reading about Adox CMS 20 II after seeing the results would like to try it but it seems to be sold out everywhere in the US. I'm wondering if it has been discontinued?

Thanks,

 

[retina_restoration]

Hello,

I've been reading about Adox CMS 20 II after seeing the results would like to try it but it seems to be sold out everywhere in the US. I'm wondering if it has been discontinued?

Thanks,

Not in the USA at this time, but you can order from fotoimpex

 

[GregY]

It is pretty impressive processed in Adotech

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

I would advise stocking up on this film, if you are an ardent user like me. Just in case. I can only find it at fotoimpex.

 

[GregY]

I would advise stocking up on this film, if you are an ardent user like me. Just in case. I can only find it at fotoimpex.

i would like to have tried the 120....

 

[cmacd123]

it has been a year or more since Eastman Park Micrographics shut down. they were the folks who were distributing AGFA COPEX Microfilm under licence under the Kodak imagecapture and imagelink names..

Eastman Park Micrographics Inc. (EPM) closes its operations

Eastman Park Micrographics Inc. (EPM) closes its operations on January 1st. Eastman Park Micrographics (EPM) was formed in April 2011 upon the purchase of the micrographic business from Eastman Kodak Company. The purchase included the worldwide customer base for equipment, media and service...

www.photrio.com

I am not sure if it would be worthwhile for Agfa Materials to make COPEX just for ADOX. Who knows if Fuji is still selling their "HR" microfilm.

(in one of my long ago my past lives I spent a couple of years getting a still neck working at Microfilming documents, so I do keep an eye out for any information.)

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

i would like to have tried the 120....

Me too, but at least I got to play around with it in 4x5. Still have about a half box left, and a few rolls of 35mm...

 

[GregY]

Me too, but at least I got to play around with it in 4x5. Still have about a half box left, and a few rolls of 35mm...

I'm down to a little 35mm sadly. But i do still have a little Agfapan 25 which is an old favourite.

 

[Chuck1]

Adox got their 120 line running for the chs ii release, I was under the impression that cms ii 120 was coming this spring...

 

[mtlc]

Thanks everyone!

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

My wee stock of CMS 20 will now only be used when absolutely necessary. No more playing around (even though I've got a couple of vids on the way). Looks like I'll have to move over to their HR-50. Hopefully they'll coat some 120. The nice thing about it is that it'll sub as an IR film.

 

[Radost]

Can we get official life span of the CMSIV? I had a 3 years half bottle with heavy gas on top that somehow pressure exploded in to a brown liquid.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Can we get official life span of the CMSIV? I had a 3 years half bottle with heavy gas on top that somehow pressure exploded in to a brown liquid.

I have a bottle that is 1/4 full, that has been in my darkroom for a few years. Been meaning to test it...

 

[Radost]

Not in the USA at this time, but you can order from fotoimpex

12 Euro???? No thanks

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

12 Euro???? No thanks

I see it listed on their site for 13 Euros. It's got to be the most expensive developer out there... Since CMS 20 II will no longer be available, I'll have to see if I can use it for HR-50.

 

[Radost]

I see it listed on their site for 13 Euros. It's got to be the most expensive developer out there... Since CMS 20 II will no longer be available, I'll have to see if I can use it for HR-50.

Hold on… CMS20 will be no longer available??/??? wHy??
Also developer is ike $20. I was talking about the film.. Its $7 and some change in the USA

 

[Chuck1]

Hopefully the adox man will chime in...

 

[Radost]

Hopefully the adox man will chime in...

I contacted them a few times here and got no response.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Hold on… CMS20 will be no longer available??/??? wHy??
Also developer is ike $20. I was talking about the film.. Its $7 and some change in the USA

I'd rather Mirko @ADOX Fotoimpex chimed in with an update, than me.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

CMS 20 base film emulsion is no longer coated. The EPM shutdown affected all microfilm productions.
We have enough stocks to carry us through another 1-2 years with CMS 20.
The remaining stocks are available through Fotoimpex exclusively and we limited orders to 10 rolls to stretch the stock as long as possible.
As an alternative we recomend our outstanding HR-50 which is already extremely fine grained and higher resolving than e.g. APX 25 or KB25 ever were. In short we plan to release a special developer which yields even finer grained images with this film if shot at 25 ASA. This film is sold in much larger quantities and can therefore be offered at a lower price as well.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

CMS 20 base film emulsion is no longer coated. The EPM shutdown affected all microfilm productions. We have enough stocks to carry us through another 1-2 years with CMS 20.
The remaiing stocks are available through Fotoimpex exclusively.
As an alternative we recomend our outstanding HR-50 which is already extremely fine grained and higher resolving than e.g. APX 25 or KB25 ever were. In short we plan to release a special developer which yields even finer grained images with this film if shot at 25 ASA. This film is sold in much larger quantities and can therefore be offered at a lower price as well.

Thank you for the update. I feel better it came directly from you, rather than from me. Folks, if you like this product (as do I), I recommend stocking up. In regards to HR-50, I hope Adox provides it if not in sheet film, then in 120.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

The reason for the price increase is that we had to source remaining quantities at full retail price as opposed to custom coatings in the past. We also have to refinish some film which means extra work. This is also the reason why we can no longer wholesale the film to dealers with a discount. On the upside for people who like this film: We started selling it almost 20 years ago and we have frozen set back samples which are still performing like on the first day. So this film really keeps well.
Yes, HR-50 is planned in 120.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

The reason for the price increase ist btw. that we had to source remaining quantities at full retail price as opposed to custom coatings in the past. We also have to refinish some film which means extra work. On the upside for people who like this film: We started selling it almost 20 years ago and we have frozen set back samples which are still performing like on the first day. So this film really keeps well.
Yes, HR-50 is planned in 120.

Excellent news about the HR-50! Thank you.

 

[retina_restoration]

Yes, HR-50 is planned in 120.

That's excellent news, Mirko! Thank you. I'm using CHS 100 II in 120 and absolutely love the film. I hope one of these days we will see it available again in sheet film sizes?

 

[Sal Santamaura]

...We have enough stocks to carry us through another 1-2 years with CMS 20...

The reason for the price increase ist btw. that we had to source remaining quantities at full retail price as opposed to custom coatings in the past. We also have to refinish some film which means extra work. On the upside for people who like this film: We started selling it almost 20 years ago and we have frozen set back samples which are still performing like on the first day...

For those of us who already recognized how well CMS 20 II keeps, especially when cold stored, and have a "lifetime" supply on hand, the key question is: will ADOX continue to make and sell Adotech IV after it runs out of the film?