oups.. I change the credentials. Now will be fine for everybody.
About your failure in automatic mode, check connectivity or Tr12 (pin 4 and 5 from top circuit) to the control board C2 and S4.
it is not used in manual mode.
I added the picture of the top ceramic board with wire connection to the Leica add-on (pot, switch, bottom cell)
For your information, the ceramic board is a Minolta XE board where they cut 3 connection (see red lines).
I am working on a Service manual for LEaica R3 but have no time at the moment. I am working on Minolta XM project.
Last point: to adjust the cell response, have to adjust first Cds Spot as describe for XE with R23=RL R22=RS then adjust CLC Cds cell. What is not clear is the way to adjust R21 (RP) at the moment do not change/adjust R21. The most important is
1) to use clean and lubricated pot for Rsv and Rav. I use "Deoxit Fade Lub" with cotton buds. Do not spay directly!!!
2) to adjust correctly the current generator R1 and R2.
To yong to be able to send PM....
Here it is.
Another version based on Minolta XE documentation.
Sorry for the french....
SW5 Mirror box ( under mirror box,
CI-E is the small CI to support/connect Spot cell under the Mirror box.
TPrins, sorry you do not success yet.
No problem to send it to me but at the moment very busy with my own project.
Just to be sure to well understood were you are.
Could you answer if the different point here under are OK:
Fist point The mechanical speed, to be sure to test them, remove the battery.
With no battery, opening the back of the body, using X mode you see light when shutter start OK or KO
other speed than X give 0s exposure - no light visible (second curtain and first one start at same time) OK or KO
With battery, you activate the electric control of second curtain. Test low speeds 1 2s and 4s are working OK or KO
In automatic mode, always low speed or high speed or no light (second curtain start immediately?
Hi, no problem, we have time....
1) no battery, open back, X: i see light OK
2) no battery, open back, other speeds: no light OK normal.
3) battery, manual speed 1s 2s 4s: mostly work, sometimes faster, sometimes no light ---> here first problem to solv.
4) battery, automatic: sometimes really long (+10 sec), sometimes no light
Point 3 manual speed : must works perfectly before working on last point: Automatic
Manual electric speed, what to check:
fist: cleaning S'4 using deoxid. (remove the bottom plate, it is in visible in a small window in the middle. They are moved by a nylon lever from the mirror box)
Second cleaning of SW7 but (if not wrong, you did it).
To clean the switch contacts you must use Electronic contact cleaned "Deoxit or KF F2 or other similar product". but you cannot spay!!!
You have to put some liquid in a cup and then use a 0.6mm watchmaker screwdriver or "oil stick" to put one drop of deoxit fluid on the contact.
To clean the contact I select the B speed,
the first contact on top (normally closed): put one drop on the contact then trig the shutter many time.
for the second activate the shutter to close the contact, put one drop on the contact then trig the shutter many time.
normally must obtain stable long exposure 1sec for example.
If not the case, will need deeper investigation. Before going there, could you clean/deoxit the contact.
Best regards.
If all above OK, certainly a problem with S4 inside the CLS shutter, must open the body to remove miror box....
Not easy...
Hi Andreas, about the mirror box, I agree, Doable but better to check everything before opening....
I do not like because have to unsolder some connection. If we can avoid it is better.
About the R3 MOT Electronic, I already have this documentation. I confirm: Electronic is exactly the same for shutter control and flash circuit. There is only additional circuits to control the winder.
R3Mot had some mecanical differences but minor changes.
I already build my documentation (In french) based on Minolta XE documentation
To debug the electronic, I use digital oscilloscope synchronized on flash trigger contact (if works..) It is easy to check the electronic and to see what appended before and after trigger: 3V power stability, Mg control, condensator charg/discharg.
Debugging possible with multimeter but not so direct.
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