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Excellent Sanders.
I had really hoped to be rolling out gravures by now. But my printer will not cooperate so I am still printing kallitypes while my press sits gathering dust. Here's another, printed this evening.
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Beautiful print Sanders.
More Epson woes? I've had some Canon woes myself. I wish the freakin' things would just work.
More Epson woes? I've had some Canon woes myself. I wish the freakin' things would just work.
Lovely !!
Robert
Robert
Patrick, thanks for the compliment. Yes, Epson woes. I have everything ready to roll. Press, check. 365nm UV box, check. Inks and papers and other paraphernalia, check. DTP plates, check. QTR curve for printing to the plates, check.
The P900 will not recognize any of the sleds I've made to carry the plates through the printer. I've tried several different approaches. Each time, my P900 says I've not loaded the proper paper and spits it back out.
The P900 is a marvelous machine when it works.
I have an Epson 3880 and once ran out of the matte paper I was printing a series on. I had a larger version of the same paper so I cut it to the needed size. My printer would not recognise it. I tried fouling it calling it different papers but nothing worked. I ended up using a large sheet with several images and then cut. I have no idea how the printer could tell unless the larger sheet was of slightly different thickness.
I’m not familiar with your technique but perhaps my solution can be useful.
I’m not familiar with your technique but perhaps my solution can be useful.
IDK; I have the same printer and have printed all manner of custom sizes on it. It's very flexible and always accepts whatever I feed it without complaining. Maybe it's a different firmware version?
Sanders,
I don't have a P900, but with my P800 (and the 3880 before that) I had occasional problems feeding hand cut paper through either the sheet feeder or the rear 'fine art' feeder if the paper was not cut exactly square.
I don't know if this is an issue with the front feeder (in poster board mode) which, I assume, is what you need to print on DTP plates but it might be worth investigating.
BTW, the last kallitype you posted is just spectacular.
It's a fragile machine -- great technology, flimsy build. I took it over to Clay Harmon's studio so he could develop a P900 QTR curve for his DTP stock. It worked there. I must have flexed it the wrong way carrying it back inside from the car. Or maybe I sneezed on it. Now, no luck with the front feed. The rear feed still works for digital negaatives so I'm not entirely out of business.
Frank, thanks. This new series of torsos is a bit of a departure for me. On a technical level, printing kallitypes in high key is a bit of a challenge. (And I am curious to see how well the images render as gravures.) But I am also trying to be a bit more honest with the subject matter as well. Maybe honest is the wrong word. But I feel as if I am exposing myself more with these images, the more so with the ones that don't get posted here.
Sanders,
I had a problems with getting my P900 to recognize the "sled" for DPT - this may or may not be your problem, odd that it worked at Clay's studio and not yours.
Two ply matt board is nominally 0.75mm thick hence a stack of two are 1.5mm thick. As I understand the P900 is set up for a max media thickness of 1.127 mm unless there is a custom .emy file. I had to create a custom .emy file with a 1.5 mm thick media and an icc profile for matte paper. There is a thread in QuadToneRIP@groups.io ( a discussion group for quadtoneRIP issues) about this issue. A guy named Larry was having this problem - and this is what I wrote him..and there may be other info in this thread that is useful. https://groups.io/g/QuadToneRIP/topic/dtp_with_the_epson_p900/106300821
"Larry, I had the same problem with my new P900 when I first tried to print DTP plates in a carrier. I agree with Clay that it is tricky. Here is what I did - the carrier I used was two layers of 2X matte board - with a total thickness of 1.5mm. I created a custom epson .emy file for my DTP set-up based on the epson matte board .emy file ( you may have to down load this from the epson site). I modified the thickness parameter to 1.5mm and set the platen gap to 2.1mm ( I believe these are the largest values allowed). I also changed the .icc profile to a matte paper profile to insure the use of MK ink. After I made these changes and installed the .emy file, I was able to successfully print several plates... but it can be kind of "finicky" - also make sure all of the parameters on the printer set-up match the information in the print tool or QTR settings. Good Luck"
Hope this helps... as I said if it worked at Clay's and not at your studio that kind of has me stumped - did you use his sled or one that you made. A measurement of the sled would be useful. Apparently there are other issues that can cause the media to not be recognized -including stray marks on the sled, I am not an expert on any of this, but this custom . emy worked for me.
Dave
I had a problems with getting my P900 to recognize the "sled" for DPT - this may or may not be your problem, odd that it worked at Clay's studio and not yours.
Two ply matt board is nominally 0.75mm thick hence a stack of two are 1.5mm thick. As I understand the P900 is set up for a max media thickness of 1.127 mm unless there is a custom .emy file. I had to create a custom .emy file with a 1.5 mm thick media and an icc profile for matte paper. There is a thread in QuadToneRIP@groups.io ( a discussion group for quadtoneRIP issues) about this issue. A guy named Larry was having this problem - and this is what I wrote him..and there may be other info in this thread that is useful. https://groups.io/g/QuadToneRIP/topic/dtp_with_the_epson_p900/106300821
"Larry, I had the same problem with my new P900 when I first tried to print DTP plates in a carrier. I agree with Clay that it is tricky. Here is what I did - the carrier I used was two layers of 2X matte board - with a total thickness of 1.5mm. I created a custom epson .emy file for my DTP set-up based on the epson matte board .emy file ( you may have to down load this from the epson site). I modified the thickness parameter to 1.5mm and set the platen gap to 2.1mm ( I believe these are the largest values allowed). I also changed the .icc profile to a matte paper profile to insure the use of MK ink. After I made these changes and installed the .emy file, I was able to successfully print several plates... but it can be kind of "finicky" - also make sure all of the parameters on the printer set-up match the information in the print tool or QTR settings. Good Luck"
Hope this helps... as I said if it worked at Clay's and not at your studio that kind of has me stumped - did you use his sled or one that you made. A measurement of the sled would be useful. Apparently there are other issues that can cause the media to not be recognized -including stray marks on the sled, I am not an expert on any of this, but this custom . emy worked for me.
Dave
A couple of years ago a lightning strike right outside our house took our most of our electronics including the printer. Since I had plenty of their expensive inks having the printer repaired was the least expensive way to go. I don’t know what the technician did but it worked for what I normally print and has otherwise behaved well so that had been the only issue and was a one time thing I have been satisfied.
Wonderful!
Thank you!
I praise your sensitivity to other people's feelings regarding this type of subject matter. The small block that reads spoiler is probable a good idea. I'd remove the "more naughty bits" or change that part of the phrase because the images are too beautiful to be called "naughty".
FWIW,
Robert
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I think this was made using the juice extracted from Peony flowers in distilled water or Gin. Exposure was several days. The paper was Arches art paper.
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FWIW, It is more accurate to say that "the site" is struggling with this, then to say that "the site" isn't interested.
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Indeed, "the site" is very interested in this topic and also acutely aware of the conflicting views and desires of multiple groups of stakeholders. Finding a solution that keeps everyone happy is furthermore complicated by practical challenges.
Having said that, this thread is not the place to debate this issue. Nor is it a suitable place to campaign for a certain approach, either overtly or through (not so) subtle remarks in the margins of a post. Let's focus on prints here, please. Thanks.
Three Pt/Pd prints made today. Images are 6.5" square on 8x10 sheets of Revere Platinum.
The exposures were made back in March using my camera obscura, see this post for more details about that: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/finished-cyanotypes.177566/post-2314740.
The latter two are places I visit (and photograph) more-or-less regularly.
Railroad Tracks at Windsor, VT
Cemetery Gate, Temple, NH
Cheshire Mill No. 1, Harrisville, NH
The exposures were made back in March using my camera obscura, see this post for more details about that: https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/finished-cyanotypes.177566/post-2314740.
The latter two are places I visit (and photograph) more-or-less regularly.
Railroad Tracks at Windsor, VT
Cemetery Gate, Temple, NH
Cheshire Mill No. 1, Harrisville, NH
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So, an anthotype. Thanks for the details.
I've experimented with anthotypes, mainly using tumeric which is relatively fast (exposures of several hours) and very stable if one sprays the exposed paper with sodium carbonate.
I have also tried paprika which is also fast but not very stable. The prints faded to 'zero' in the dark over a few months.
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